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John Dibble
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« on: January 22, 2005, 09:12:02 PM »

...against junk food ads.

Anyone care to take a guess when they'll start regulating people's diets directly? After all, people just can't be trusted to make their own decisions.
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2005, 09:16:19 PM »

Spiffy.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2005, 09:18:02 PM »

Damn John, you gave me a seizure.  The EU.  Bunch of tough bastards they are Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2005, 09:40:47 PM »

Oh, god...when will they ever learn? Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2005, 09:41:01 PM »

If government is responsible for your healthcare then government has a right to demand that you eat healthy foods right? This is a small step in the direction of government control of people. Each step makes the next step seem more reasonable. Eventually government dictates everything you do. This is one more reason why socialism is incompatable with freedom.
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2005, 09:42:52 PM »

this is stupid people should eat what they want. Also most Fast food restuarants are offering healther items.
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2005, 11:02:57 PM »

If government is responsible for your healthcare then government has a right to demand that you eat healthy foods right?
Absolutely.  And I think they should institute mandatory exercises every day.  Say, 1 hour a day for most people, and you need to do it at a qualified gym, and the instructor will report it to the government to make sure you continue to receive your healthcare.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2005, 11:15:09 PM »

As much as I dislike fat people, this is wrong.
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2005, 11:52:16 PM »

The subject in this folder is false advertisement, i almost had a stroke when i saw it
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2005, 06:41:25 PM »

Wow i thought this was about something much bigger. Its not at all a new concept. In the U.S junk food companies are constantly being pressured to stop advertising to children during cartoons and morning programs. This month Kraft announced that they were going to stop advertising their popular cookie "oreo's" to youth audiences. So its not as new of an idea as you might think.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2005, 07:35:50 PM »

Wow i thought this was about something much bigger. Its not at all a new concept. In the U.S junk food companies are constantly being pressured to stop advertising to children during cartoons and morning programs. This month Kraft announced that they were going to stop advertising their popular cookie "oreo's" to youth audiences. So its not as new of an idea as you might think.

No, it's not a new concept. Still, there's many types of pressure - consumer, public, government, ect. In this case, it's government, and it is not the place of government to do so. If anyone should be legislating the diets of children, it is the parents.
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2005, 01:30:29 AM »

I don't see anything wrong with consumer advocacy pressure.  Just like I wouldn't mind petition signing to move a brothel away from a church.  Shrug.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2005, 08:46:52 AM »

I don't see anything wrong with consumer advocacy pressure.  Just like I wouldn't mind petition signing to move a brothel away from a church.  Shrug.

I have no problem with market pressue, and I have no problem with that alone. Boycotts, petitions, and the like are consumer actions. Nobody is really forced to give in to it. My problem is government pressure - they threaten to legislate it, which is force. Don't comply, go to jail. Resist arrest, get roughed up or worse. This issue is not something that needs government using it's powers of force to resolve. Even if the market can't resolve it, the means of using legislation do not justify the ends.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2005, 06:11:42 PM »

No its not just consumer pressure. Were you aware that for the 2005 school year in Texas the state government had to approve the schools menu's to "fight childhood obesity"? Thats an example of the govt. stepping in. Also the government makes the food pyramid that we are taught from kindergarden. The government is more involved in our diets than you want ti imagin, but your are right stepping in and outlawing advertisment is going to far. I was just adding perspective, pointing out that it happens in america also.
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2005, 07:24:24 PM »

No its not just consumer pressure. Were you aware that for the 2005 school year in Texas the state government had to approve the schools menu's to "fight childhood obesity"? Thats an example of the govt. stepping in. Also the government makes the food pyramid that we are taught from kindergarden. The government is more involved in our diets than you want ti imagin, but your are right stepping in and outlawing advertisment is going to far. I was just adding perspective, pointing out that it happens in america also.

They are involved in what food they put in their schools and issue recommendations for diets that are used in schools and by most doctors. I do not really see that as overstepping bounds.
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2005, 07:46:41 PM »

No its not just consumer pressure. Were you aware that for the 2005 school year in Texas the state government had to approve the schools menu's to "fight childhood obesity"? Thats an example of the govt. stepping in. Also the government makes the food pyramid that we are taught from kindergarden. The government is more involved in our diets than you want ti imagin, but your are right stepping in and outlawing advertisment is going to far. I was just adding perspective, pointing out that it happens in america also.

They are involved in what food they put in their schools and issue recommendations for diets that are used in schools and by most doctors. I do not really see that as overstepping bounds.

Forbidding advertisement is what is overstepping bounds. These products are not illegal for children to consume, nor is there any real reason for there to be, so forbidding advertising legal products to a market that can legally consume them is what is overstepping the bounds.

What I think his complaint about the school menu thing is that it is the state government stepping in, and school menus(and most school policies for that matter) are supposed to be the realm of local government.
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2005, 11:27:24 PM »

Yes, exactly. I was more trying to point out that the state government has used its power to encourage a healthy youth. It was simply an example, i hoped it would help to inform. I could care less if they took away the onion rings, i perfer the vegitables anyways.
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