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State Comptroller Atkins
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Opinion of Michael Portillo
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August 03, 2012, 06:38:42 am »
Neutral. His politics aren't as bad as they used to be, and his TV programmes are often pretty good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Portillo
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Swedish Cheese
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Re: Opinion of Michael Portillo
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Portillo after and before the 1997 defeat are really like two different people. The post-defeat one I like quite a lot actually.
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Re: Opinion of Michael Portillo
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August 03, 2012, 07:46:56 am »
Would have really liked him at a time. From what I've read about/seen on his show after he left government, he is very irritating. As a former British member once said, Portillo before the '97 defeat was Blue opebo and after is Red opebo (but at least Red opebo is hilarious!).
The one episode of his program was (supposed) to be about Thatcher and the Tories. It seemed like half of his questions and comments to his guests were about him.
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State Comptroller Atkins
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Re: Opinion of Michael Portillo
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Quote from: Keystone Phil on August 03, 2012, 07:46:56 am
As a former British member once said, Portillo before the '97 defeat was Blue opebo and after is Red opebo (but at least Red opebo is hilarious!).
Ah, but opebo has
always
been socially liberal.
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Keystone Phil
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Quote from: Mitt Montgomery Burns on August 03, 2012, 10:16:24 am
Quote from: Keystone Phil on August 03, 2012, 07:46:56 am
As a former British member once said, Portillo before the '97 defeat was Blue opebo and after is Red opebo (but at least Red opebo is hilarious!).
Ah, but opebo has
always
been socially liberal.
Yeah, I knew I should have mentioned that. It makes Portillo worse.
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Quote from: Representative Wyodon on May 06, 2013, 04:31:05 pm
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Quote from: Swedish Cheese on August 03, 2012, 06:48:23 am
Portillo after and before the 1997 defeat are really like two different people. The post-defeat one I like quite a lot actually.
It's like he noticed that everyone was delighted that he lost and that instead of mentally responding with 'the bastards!' wondered why that was.
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Re: Opinion of Michael Portillo
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August 04, 2012, 09:58:36 am »
Just for curiosity I clicked on the link of his grandfather, an exiled Spanish republican. I found these verses by Luis Gabriel Portillo:
Cuando en su propia sangre redimida
España otra vez libre resucite
No encontrará a su alcance otro desquite
que ahogar odio en piedad, y muerte en vida.
They talk about Peace, Mercy and Forgiveness. Just like a famous Azaña speech in Barcelona, 1938, during the Spanish Civil War.
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August 04, 2012, 11:44:39 am »
Speaking of the Spanish Civil war, one of very few Tories I'd have second thoughts about gunning down on a battlefield.
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Re: Opinion of Michael Portillo
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August 04, 2012, 12:18:43 pm »
Really? You say this because you don't know the Spanish conservatives. Seriously, I prefer to avoid battlefields if I can.
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Re: Opinion of Michael Portillo
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August 05, 2012, 02:38:30 pm »
Before he lost in 1997, he was an arrogant douche. Since then, he's mellowed out considerably.
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Re: Opinion of Michael Portillo
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August 05, 2012, 02:43:06 pm »
I agree with everyone else.
Pre "Portillo Moment" - Horrendous Person
Post "Portillo Moment" - Freedom Fighter
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Supersonic
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Re: Opinion of Michael Portillo
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August 05, 2012, 06:21:15 pm »
If Portillo was elected Conservative leader in 2001, it would have done a world of good for them.
Anyone
was better than Iain Duncan, i'm turning up the volume, Smith.
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Re: Opinion of Michael Portillo
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Quote from: Supersonic on August 05, 2012, 06:21:15 pm
If Portillo was elected Conservative leader in 2001, it would have done a world of good for them.
Anyone
was better than Iain Duncan, i'm turning up the volume, Smith.
How dare you! No one - and I mean no one! - insults IDS in my presence.
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Quote from: Representative Wyodon on May 06, 2013, 04:31:05 pm
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Re: Opinion of Michael Portillo
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August 07, 2012, 08:14:32 am »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on August 07, 2012, 07:32:34 am
Quote from: Supersonic on August 05, 2012, 06:21:15 pm
If Portillo was elected Conservative leader in 2001, it would have done a world of good for them.
Anyone
was better than Iain Duncan, i'm turning up the volume, Smith.
How dare you! No one - and I mean no one! - insults IDS in my presence.
Not much you can do to us IDS haters from across the Pond.
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Re: Opinion of Michael Portillo
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Didn't realise IDS had that much support and opposition outside of UK borders, tbh.
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August 07, 2012, 11:07:36 am »
Even the former radical Thatcherite Portillo seemed a more likeable person than Duncan-Smith.
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Quote from: Leftbehind on August 07, 2012, 10:00:33 am
Didn't realise IDS had that much support and opposition outside of UK borders, tbh.
Unfortunately, the great man only has a few fans.
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