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« on: August 05, 2012, 04:02:02 PM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19135435#

Obviously it's wrong to murder a human being, though it's hard to not sympathize with the miners.
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2012, 04:20:00 PM »

Well, not really surprising, through events shouldn't reach that point in the modern world.
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2012, 06:34:06 PM »

Manager, not owner. I'm sure the owners of the mine are still sitting pretty in China.
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2012, 07:18:46 PM »

Obviously it's wrong to murder a human being, though it's hard to not sympathize with the miners.

I succeeded. Obviously a minimum wage is a key part of the sort of thing governments should do, and it should be enforced, but the very idea of strikers killing businessmen leaves a horrible taste in my mouth. Thankfully in the country where I live this sort of thing doesn't happen.
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2012, 07:22:29 PM »

Obviously it's wrong to murder a human being, though it's hard to not sympathize with the miners.

I succeeded. Obviously a minimum wage is a key part of the sort of thing governments should do, and it should be enforced, but the very idea of strikers killing businessmen leaves a horrible taste in my mouth. Thankfully in the country where I live this sort of thing doesn't happen.

You really are completely and across the board in favor of established interests and power, aren't you?
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2012, 07:22:42 PM »

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Good for the miners, vigilante justice can be the only recourse when the system is stacked against you, the litigation system is broken and you aren't given basic human rights.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2012, 07:29:24 PM »

I'm with Snow here.
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2012, 07:34:25 PM »

'It's in the evening after dark...'
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2012, 08:56:56 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2012, 01:34:36 AM »

Chinese neo-imperialism in Africa is a disturbing phenomena indeed. The methods are worse than what even the hardest European neo-colonialist could even think of.
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2012, 01:37:32 AM »

Freedom fighters.
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2012, 03:31:43 PM »


Now if the Chinese slaves would rise up and kill those above them in China, and the American ones in America, and so forth.  I suppose it isn't impossible.
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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2012, 03:52:53 PM »


Now if the Chinese slaves would rise up and kill those above them in China, and the American ones in America, and so forth.  I suppose it isn't impossible.

They should start in Thailand first.
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2012, 09:49:07 PM »


Now if the Chinese slaves would rise up and kill those above them in China, and the American ones in America, and so forth.  I suppose it isn't impossible.
It's a good question of whether American slaves could rise up, considering they have all been exported to china or contained in certain neighborhoods.
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2012, 10:53:20 PM »

Obviously it's wrong to murder a human being, though it's hard to not sympathize with the miners.

I succeeded. Obviously a minimum wage is a key part of the sort of thing governments should do, and it should be enforced, but the very idea of strikers killing businessmen leaves a horrible taste in my mouth. Thankfully in the country where I live this sort of thing doesn't happen.

You really are completely and across the board in favor of established interests and power, aren't you?

Actually I was a little amazed by the first half of his second sentence.  The monocle seems to be slipping.
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2012, 10:19:18 AM »

Now if the Chinese slaves would rise up and kill those above them in China, and the American ones in America, and so forth.  I suppose it isn't impossible.

They should start in Thailand first.

Heheh, you mean I should rise up against the ladies I pay out loads of money to each month?
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2012, 11:29:13 AM »

Obviously it's wrong to murder a human being, though it's hard to not sympathize with the miners.

I succeeded. Obviously a minimum wage is a key part of the sort of thing governments should do, and it should be enforced, but the very idea of strikers killing businessmen leaves a horrible taste in my mouth. Thankfully in the country where I live this sort of thing doesn't happen.

You really are completely and across the board in favor of established interests and power, aren't you?

Being opposed to the murder in cold blood of businessmen isn't to do with being in favour of established interests and power.
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2012, 12:02:11 PM »

They should have captured and detained the bloke - the killing cannot be justified and forfeits at least in part some of the miners' moral high ground. Though I sympathize and more closely align with the Zambian miners than the management and mostly agree with Politicus when it comes to the exploitation of Africans by the PRC, shedding blood is nevertheless very poor form.
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2012, 01:09:32 PM »

Now if the Chinese slaves would rise up and kill those above them in China, and the American ones in America, and so forth.  I suppose it isn't impossible.

They should start in Thailand first.

Heheh, you mean I should rise up against the ladies I pay out loads of money to each month?

You're not one of the slaves, and I thought one reason you liked the place was that you didn't have to pay as much.
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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2012, 03:23:41 PM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12973534

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Same mine.
 
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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2012, 10:12:45 AM »

Chinese neo-imperialism in Africa is a disturbing phenomena indeed. The methods are worse than what even the hardest European neo-colonialist could even think of.
I beg to differ. Look into the methods used by oil companies in Nigeria.
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2012, 02:58:15 PM »


Zambia: Proud Subsidiary of the People's Republic of China

Appears to be the case.
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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2012, 06:55:48 PM »

Obviously it's wrong to murder a human being, though it's hard to not sympathize with the miners.

I succeeded. Obviously a minimum wage is a key part of the sort of thing governments should do, and it should be enforced, but the very idea of strikers killing businessmen leaves a horrible taste in my mouth. Thankfully in the country where I live this sort of thing doesn't happen.

You really are completely and across the board in favor of established interests and power, aren't you?

Being opposed to the murder in cold blood of businessmen isn't to do with being in favour of established interests and power.

I'm opposed to it because it's people killing people. Vosem seems to care an inordinate amount about the positions of the people in question.

So in essence I agree with Redalgo.
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2012, 05:27:56 AM »

Now if the Chinese slaves would rise up and kill those above them in China, and the American ones in America, and so forth.  I suppose it isn't impossible.

They should start in Thailand first.

Heheh, you mean I should rise up against the ladies I pay out loads of money to each month?

So, when you're paying people for their work they're exploiting you but in all other instances when someone gets paid it's the people getting paid who are exploited?
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2012, 10:44:25 AM »

You're not one of the slaves, and I thought one reason you liked the place was that you didn't have to pay as much.

Well, compared to the price of other things, and normal salaries, working girls are much more expensive here - say $35 baht for a high-quality 1-3 hours, compared to a normal working-class wage of about $10/day.  In the US you'd pay $200 for the same service, and a normal working class wage is nearly $100/day. 

Heheh, you mean I should rise up against the ladies I pay out loads of money to each month?

So, when you're paying people for their work they're exploiting you but in all other instances when someone gets paid it's the people getting paid who are exploited?

It was a joke, buddy.  The serious implication is, of course, that in terms of repeat visits this kind of thing becomes a rather personal relationship..  Just like the case of gold-digging wives in the US, it isn't always so clear who is exploiting who or who has the 'power'.   
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