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jfern
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Bush's approval rating is tanking
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January 23, 2005, 04:03:25 am »
These people are 3 months too late to decide to disapprove of Bush.
55% disapprove
43% approve
That doesn't sound like a mandate to me.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm
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Re: Bush's approval rating is tanking
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January 23, 2005, 04:05:42 am »
Hopefully, this is channeled into the 2006 midterms.
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January 23, 2005, 04:52:00 am »
Bush's approval gap has doubled since the 5th. What is causing this?
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Re: Bush's approval rating is tanking
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January 23, 2005, 06:02:33 am »
Quote from: Alcon on January 23, 2005, 04:52:00 am
Bush's approval gap has doubled since the 5th. What is causing this?
It might be this talk of privitizing Social Security.
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January 23, 2005, 09:53:10 am »
<Bush doesn't care about fighting terrorism>
Uh, no, that would be the other party.
"There is no terrorist threat"
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January 23, 2005, 01:03:50 pm »
Another poll gives him a 53% approval rating.
Over 2/3 of Americans support personal retirement accounts.
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January 23, 2005, 02:57:00 pm »
Quote from: Philip on January 23, 2005, 01:03:50 pm
Over 2/3 of Americans support personal retirement accounts.
That number falls significantly when they find out about the 2 trillion in transition costs.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/polls/2004351/q16/index.html
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January 23, 2005, 03:02:19 pm »
I really doubt people are saying they don't approve of his job performance because of the $2 trillion it takes to keep Social Security from going bankrupt.
I also don't take one poll seriously. He's at 53% approval in TIME.
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January 23, 2005, 03:33:27 pm »
Quote from: Philip on January 23, 2005, 03:02:19 pm
I really doubt people are saying they don't approve of his job performance because of the $2 trillion it takes to keep Social Security from going bankrupt.
I also don't take one poll seriously. He's at 53% approval in TIME.
didn't we learn our lesson during the election season? TIME polls are worthless.
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Quote from: Philip on January 23, 2005, 03:02:19 pm
I really doubt people are saying they don't approve of his job performance because of the $2 trillion it takes to keep Social Security from going bankrupt.
I also don't take one poll seriously. He's at 53% approval in TIME.
The poll doesnt say they disapprove of his job performance. It says that support for Private accounts drop to 46% when they hear about the 2 trillion in tansition costs.
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January 24, 2005, 09:00:18 am »
The result of Rasmussen poll (the best poll in the last election...) is just... amazing. In some weeks, his job approval has strongly dropped. Difficult to understand...
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January 24, 2005, 09:42:34 am »
I can't say I'm suprised (he only got re-elected on the "Lesser of Two Evils" principle) but this is mostly meaningless.
George W Bush is not running for political office ever again.
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Quote from: Senator Al on January 24, 2005, 09:42:34 am
George W Bush is not running for political office ever again.
Yep... I guess the only approval ratings that really matter are the ones conducted in November.
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January 25, 2005, 01:08:31 pm »
Quote from: phknrocket1k on January 23, 2005, 04:05:42 am
Hopefully, this is channeled into the 2006 midterms.
All being well, things will improve for the Democrats in 2006 leaving Bush a lame duck
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Re: Bush's approval rating is tanking
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January 25, 2005, 02:21:39 pm »
The average of the last 8 polls taken just prior to the November election was a Bush approval rating of 49.5%
Bush Approval Rating
The current Average over at RealClearPolitics does not have Rasmussen it it, but if you add Rassussen's 43% into the mix the average of the last 8 polls is 50.0%
49.5% versus 50.0%
Hmmm...
I do not yet see a crushing and compelling trend here...
The folks who backed Bush in November still like him, the folks who hated him in November still hate him.
Not a lot of charge IMHO.
Final note:
Rasmussen's current result is based on ADULTS, while his preelection polls were based on LIKELY VOTERS, so the Rasmussen trendline in not apples to apples either.
During 2004, reports on the President Job Approval were based upon surveys of Likely Voters. Typically, a survey of Likely Voters would report a Job Approval rating 2-3 points higher than a survey of all adults.
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Re: Bush's approval rating is tanking
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Quote from: The Vorlon on January 25, 2005, 02:21:39 pm
The average of the last 8 polls taken just prior to the November election was a Bush approval rating of 49.5%
Bush Approval Rating
The current Average over at RealClearPolitics does not have Rasmussen it it, but if you add Rassussen's 43% into the mix the average of the last 8 polls is 50.0%
49.5% versus 50.0%
Hmmm...
I do not yet see a crushing and compelling trend here...
The folks who backed Bush in November still like him, the folks who hated him in November still hate him.
Not a lot of charge IMHO.
Final note:
Rasmussen's current result is based on ADULTS, while his preelection polls were based on LIKELY VOTERS, so the Rasmussen trendline in not apples to apples either.
During 2004, reports on the President Job Approval were based upon surveys of Likely Voters. Typically, a survey of Likely Voters would report a Job Approval rating 2-3 points higher than a survey of all adults.
That makes sense. Vorlon, why would Rasmussen change from LV to adults in calculating approval and why not to RV?
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January 25, 2005, 10:34:30 pm »
Good question.
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January 25, 2005, 10:58:00 pm »
Quote from: SamSpade on January 25, 2005, 10:13:26 pm
That makes sense. Vorlon, why would Rasmussen change from LV to adults in calculating approval and why not to RV?
Two possibilities:
Firstly, there is a practical reality - 22 months out from the next election what exactly is a likely voter? - indeed given the massive registration drives that seem here to stay, what is a "registered" voter for that matter?
Secondly, it may simply just be a cost cutting move. To get 500 "Adults" per night requires fewer calls than reaching 500 "likely voters" - Its post election, I suspect Rasmussen is getting fewer visitors and hence in making less money in add revenue, it may simply just be nothing more than a cost saving move.
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Quote from: The Vorlon on January 25, 2005, 10:58:00 pm
Quote from: SamSpade on January 25, 2005, 10:13:26 pm
That makes sense. Vorlon, why would Rasmussen change from LV to adults in calculating approval and why not to RV?
Two possibilities:
Firstly, there is a practical reality - 22 months out from the next election what exactly is a likely voter? - indeed given the massive registration drives that seem here to stay, what is a "registered" voter for that matter?
Secondly, it may simply just be a cost cutting move. To get 500 "Adults" per night requires fewer calls than reaching 500 "likely voters" - Its post election, I suspect Rasmussen is getting fewer visitors and hence in making less money in add revenue, it may simply just be nothing more than a cost saving move.
I'd buy that answer, frankly.
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February 04, 2005, 07:36:06 pm »
Bush's approval rating is now at 54%.
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Quote from: The Vorlon on January 25, 2005, 02:21:39 pm
The average of the last 8 polls taken just prior to the November election was a Bush approval rating of 49.5%
Bush Approval Rating
The current Average over at RealClearPolitics does not have Rasmussen it it, but if you add Rassussen's 43% into the mix the average of the last 8 polls is 50.0%
49.5% versus 50.0%
Hmmm...
I do not yet see a crushing and compelling trend here...
The folks who backed Bush in November still like him, the folks who hated him in November still hate him.
Not a lot of charge IMHO.
Final note:
Rasmussen's current result is based on ADULTS, while his preelection polls were based on LIKELY VOTERS, so the Rasmussen trendline in not apples to apples either.
During 2004, reports on the President Job Approval were based upon surveys of Likely Voters. Typically, a survey of Likely Voters would report a Job Approval rating 2-3 points higher than a survey of all adults.
RealClearPolitics is a joke, see here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20001110051000/www.realclearpolitics.com/Polls/polls-EC_ALWAYS.html
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Re: Bush's approval rating is tanking
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Quote from: jfern on February 04, 2005, 08:32:29 pm
Quote from: The Vorlon on January 25, 2005, 02:21:39 pm
The average of the last 8 polls taken just prior to the November election was a Bush approval rating of 49.5%
Bush Approval Rating
The current Average over at RealClearPolitics does not have Rasmussen it it, but if you add Rassussen's 43% into the mix the average of the last 8 polls is 50.0%
49.5% versus 50.0%
Hmmm...
I do not yet see a crushing and compelling trend here...
The folks who backed Bush in November still like him, the folks who hated him in November still hate him.
Not a lot of charge IMHO.
Final note:
Rasmussen's current result is based on ADULTS, while his preelection polls were based on LIKELY VOTERS, so the Rasmussen trendline in not apples to apples either.
During 2004, reports on the President Job Approval were based upon surveys of Likely Voters. Typically, a survey of Likely Voters would report a Job Approval rating 2-3 points higher than a survey of all adults.
RealClearPolitics is a joke, see here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20001110051000/www.realclearpolitics.com/Polls/polls-EC_ALWAYS.html
Rasmussen was not better...
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« Reply #622 on: July 25, 2011, 04:44:20 pm »
Quote from: Umengus on July 25, 2011, 03:19:09 pm
against Aubry, Sarkozy will win. Aubry is a very bad candidate for prime time : no charisma, no sympathy, muslim connection, stupid ideas,... and sarkozy is a good candidate...
but against hollande, sarkozy will lose."
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