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Was Romney's Overseas Trip = Dukakis in the Tank?
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retromike22
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Was Romney's Overseas Trip = Dukakis in the Tank?
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But instead of being visual, it was more verbal?
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No, because visual is more damaging.
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No, it was a great trip
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The importance of the Dukakis riding the tank is easy to overemphasize, and we interpret that moment as we do
because Dukakis lost
. In retrospect, it's easy to inflate the importance of a photo or soundbite because it's a pithy representation of the entirety of our thoughts about a campaign.
Anyway, with regard to Romney's trip: Of course
voters
don't care about what happened, but the political press does, and that's going to effect how everyone discusses this campaign.
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Quote from: Yelnoc on August 08, 2012, 07:09:42 pm
No, because visual is more damaging.
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Quote from: Yelnoc on August 08, 2012, 07:09:42 pm
No, because visual is more damaging.
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Quote from: timothyinMD on August 08, 2012, 07:13:50 pm
No, it was a great trip
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Quote from: Averroës Nix on August 08, 2012, 07:36:13 pm
Anyway, with regard to Romney's trip: Of course
voters
don't care about what happened, but the political press does, and that's going to effect how everyone discusses this campaign.
Good point. The media does have a way of planting seeds in people's mind and it affects campaign. I was at a party the other week and everyone refused to believe me that Palin never actually said, I can see Russia from my house. On this trip Romney did not build his CV in foreign policy with the media or with your average swing voter.
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Quote from: Stranger in a strange land on August 08, 2012, 09:25:53 pm
Quote from: timothyinMD on August 08, 2012, 07:13:50 pm
No, it was a great trip
The "Comical Ali" character exemplifies boundless but unjustifiable optimism in the service of a lost cause.
Political campaigns rarely admit defeat until the concession speech, and that, alas, is all to often the finest speech that a politician ever gives.
Mike Dukakis was vulnerable to his personal image. If you were in Central Casting for "Godfather IV", Mike Dukakis would have looked the part of a gangster. He looked more like a loan shark than like a statesman. George H. W. Bush had no such problem. Remember also that in a close race, looks can decide much. John Kennedy was photogenic, and Richard Nixon was ugly.
Mitt Romney has no problem with his appearance. His words trip him up. In a contest with one of the most eloquent politicians that America has ever known, that can make all the difference among swing voters.
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...Seriously? The trip wasn't "great," but it certainly wasn't comparable to Dukakis in the tank.
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No, but maybe on the foreign policy front.
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Romney had a bad round in London, and then went on to have two positive visits in Poland and Israel. 2/3 isn't terrible.
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Quote from: GLPman on August 09, 2012, 12:00:18 am
...Seriously? The trip wasn't "great," but it certainly wasn't comparable to Dukakis in the tank.
Exactly. The main damage from the trip is that it was a lost opportunity for Romney to change the narrative and make himself look more presidential. So the damage was it didn't give him a boost, but it probably didn't hurt him. He will have more chances for a boost, most notably VP choice, then RNC, then Debate #1.
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