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« Reply #100 on: August 13, 2012, 07:57:00 am »
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The Anglo-Saxon mess of semi-Low Church sects (all those different Protestant groups which spread in 17th and early 18th century on the British Isles like Baptist, Methodist, Quaker etc).

Baptists are anabaptists and come from a very different origin than Methodists.
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« Reply #101 on: August 13, 2012, 09:51:19 am »
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The Anglo-Saxon mess of semi-Low Church sects (all those different Protestant groups which spread in 17th and early 18th century on the British Isles like Baptist, Methodist, Quaker etc).

Baptists are anabaptists and come from a very different origin than Methodists.

Yes and I would have called them 2nd Reformation sects, but that mean something different to English speakers, than to us other Protestants, so semi-Low Church is Close enough for government work.
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« Reply #102 on: August 13, 2012, 11:15:07 am »
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Another fun fact:

America has yet to elect a President who has both self-identified as being an 'Evangelical Protestant" and is also from an Evangelical Protestant denomination.

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« Reply #103 on: August 13, 2012, 11:28:57 am »
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Oh, and Mormons are Protestant Christians, just to let you know. Odd ones yes, but still Protestants.
I don't have a dog in the hunt, but that is a very contentious point of view. Mormons may believe they are in the Protestant tradition, but lots of Protestant sects don't even accept they are Christian.
Can't we agree that the Mormons are non-Protestant Christians? Of course I don't really care which branch of the Abrahamic religion people think they are.
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Mormons are descendent of the Christian and Protestant traditions.
And which 'tradition' do they descend from?
The Anglo-Saxon mess of semi-Low Church sects (all those different Protestant groups which spread in 17th and early 18th century on the British Isles like Baptist, Methodist, Quaker etc).
If you think of Catholics as a "tradition" branched off of Judaism, (disregard Orthodox), and Protestants as a branch off of Catholics, than wouldn't Mormons be a branch off of Protestants AND (weirdly) Judaism?  It forms a nice circle.     
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« Reply #104 on: August 13, 2012, 12:51:03 pm »
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Another fun fact:

America has yet to elect a President who has both self-identified as being an 'Evangelical Protestant" and is also from an Evangelical Protestant denomination.

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..has said in interviews that he does NOT identify as being "evangelical."
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« Reply #105 on: August 13, 2012, 04:01:56 pm »
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Another fun fact:

America has yet to elect a President who has both self-identified as being an 'Evangelical Protestant" and is also from an Evangelical Protestant denomination.

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..has said in interviews that he does NOT identify as being "evangelical."

Did he while he was in office?
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« Reply #106 on: August 13, 2012, 05:37:38 pm »
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Another fun fact:

America has yet to elect a President who has both self-identified as being an 'Evangelical Protestant" and is also from an Evangelical Protestant denomination.

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..has said in interviews that he does NOT identify as being "evangelical."

Did he while he was in office?

Which one did not apply to W. Bush?
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« Reply #107 on: August 13, 2012, 06:09:05 pm »
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Another fun fact:

America has yet to elect a President who has both self-identified as being an 'Evangelical Protestant" and is also from an Evangelical Protestant denomination.

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..has said in interviews that he does NOT identify as being "evangelical."

Did he while he was in office?

Which one did not apply to W. Bush?

Bush is a Methodist.
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« Reply #108 on: August 17, 2012, 07:12:13 pm »
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Personally, I consider Mormonism to be a Protestant denomination.  I'm not a theologist, but to my thinking, they are Christians who are not Roman Catholic and not Eastern Orthodox (Russian, Greek, Serbian, Ukranian, Armenian, etc).  They were born out of Protestant traditions in the U.S. in the 1820s.  I realize that many Protestant denominations do not recognize their baptisms, but some do (such as the Episcopal Church in Utah). 

Protestantism spans a wide range of denominations from "main line" Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans (ELC), Episcopals, United Church of Christ, many Unitarians; to Penticostals, Baptists, Seventh Day Adventists, Quakers, and all varieties of Evangelicals.  If you've been in the Armed Forces, there are generally Protestant Chaplains and Catholic Chaplains.  At larger bases, there will be a Jewish Chaplain and sometimes even an Orthodox Christain Chaplain.  But the Protestant Chaplain is trained to serve all denominations in religious services that are not Catholic, Jewish, or Orthodox.  Perhaps they would even serve a Mormon--more likely to than a Catholic or Orthdox Chaplain.
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« Reply #109 on: August 17, 2012, 08:09:41 pm »
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Another fun fact:

America has yet to elect a President who has both self-identified as being an 'Evangelical Protestant" and is also from an Evangelical Protestant denomination.

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..has said in interviews that he does NOT identify as being "evangelical."

Did he while he was in office?

He said he was evangelical in office and I heard an interview with him from earlier this year where he called himself evangelical. In addition he's always described himself as "born again." I don't know what Progressive Realist is talking about...

Edit: Also he did leave the SBC, but that was over their attitude towards women in ministry (something I agree with him on). It was the SBC that changed it's position, not him.
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