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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« on: August 12, 2012, 05:06:15 PM »

Obama has a plan and he will implement it when the economy is not in danger of falling back into recession thanks to draconian cuts.


This actually means his plan is to do nothing for 4 more years....at which point the next recession will be upon us or close to it based on the typical length of the US business cycle.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2012, 05:13:56 PM »

Obama has a plan and he will implement it when the economy is not in danger of falling back into recession thanks to draconian cuts.

In other words, this ad captures the essence of the campaign if you replace Reaganomics with Romneynomics and Mondalenomics with Obamanomics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT3AwIrLQSE


Obama is actually a very large tax cutter, in terms of the legislation he has signed.

I presume his plan is here.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/tables.pdf



The plan is of course to simply borrow $600 billion per year into perpetuity, or at least 6 years beyond his hypothetical second term. As a result he will accumulate $2.8 trillion in debt in his second term.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2012, 05:14:29 PM »


This is one of the biggest lies ever told. Short term stimulus merely leads some pigs squealing for more short term stimulus.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2012, 05:25:19 PM »

This is what these people said a couple years back.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BUDGET-2010-SUMMARY/pdf/BUDGET-2010-SUMMARY.pdf


Spending was supposed to be at $3.6 trillion in 2012, with a deficit of $557 billion.

Whoops. For some reason they ended up spending far more money than planned on welfare benefits for the Democrat base voters.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2012, 05:34:00 PM »

Obama has a plan and he will implement it when the economy is not in danger of falling back into recession thanks to draconian cuts.


This actually means his plan is to do nothing for 4 more years....at which point the next recession will be upon us or close to it based on the typical length of the US business cycle.

Except recent business cycles have been based on the credit cycle, which is only now beginning to turn around. Corporations are sitting on trillions of cash, will they will continue to invest as returns are quite high. Since the credit cycle has been particularly long, the natural business cycle will be, too. If the economy falls into a recession, it will most likely be due to some external shock such as the Euro crisis, a Middle East war, or something like that. It will not be due to natural business cycle conditions in the US.

As for Obama's plan, I would assume it's what he was willing to agree to in July 2011, before Boehner pulled the rug out from under him (or rather, before Boehner got the rug pulled out from under him by his own caucus).

That's a possibility. Unfortunately, the current growth rate of the economy is far too low to provide with the massive revenue spikes that team Obama seems to be forecasting. He of course forecast that same massive revenue spike back in 2010 that never happened.

Without that revenue spike, there will undoubtedly be more borrowing. Doubly so if we behave like Clinton1996 and use another 'short term' stimulus. Perhaps that $2.8 trillion of debt is understated.


The nice thing for these people I guess is that they can then leave office, and the 2017 Democratic Party can continue screeching about 'draconian' spending cuts.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2012, 07:08:51 PM »

Well he obviously want to cut military spending

Lol. Pay no attention to my first 4 years!
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2012, 07:28:29 PM »

Well he obviously want to cut military spending

Lol. Pay no attention to my first 4 years!

He's cut military spending more than Romney ever would.

Now we know you're lying, because his own numbers say he hasn't cut military spending at all.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2012, 08:56:54 PM »

Yeah and Romney would double to Pentagon budget on the backs of the middle and lower classes.

Shrug, you're entitled to that prediction for the future. It's of course another story to make up something about defense spending from 2009 to 2012.
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krazen1211
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2012, 08:51:34 PM »

I found the Democratic plan!

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/08/13/brutal_cnn_torches_dws_on_medicare_falsehoods




God these people need a new chairman.
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