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« on: August 14, 2012, 11:13:33 am »
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New Poll: Ohio President by Rasmussen on 2012-8-13

Summary: D: 45%, R: 45%, I: 6%, U: 4%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 11:16:28 am »
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last ohio poll by RAS in july: O 47 R 45
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 11:33:49 am »
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It's Ryan time!

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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 11:39:58 am »
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So much for Ohio apparently leaning Obama, lol.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2012, 11:52:17 am »
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Ohio is certainly winnable for the GOP - feeling better about our odds here.
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2012, 11:54:56 am »
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Does Ryan really help in OH with "white working class" voters?
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 11:55:50 am »
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So Dems are up by 2 or 3 then?
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2012, 11:57:13 am »
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Does Ryan really help in OH with "white working class" voters?

Yes -- in fact because Ryan originates from such a background Sean Trende theorizes that appealing to these voters was actually a key reason for the Ryan pick (because Pawlenty is too boring to do anything).

That said, while Rasmussen is a good pollster, they do have a slight Republican lean (similarly, PPP has a slight Democratic lean, for instance) and this is one single poll, and in fact it's tied and Romney isn't in the lead. Ohio is still small-Obama-advantage in my book.

So Dems are up by 2 or 3 then?

1-3, I would say.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 11:58:12 am »
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Does Ryan really help in OH with "white working class" voters?

Yes -- in fact because Ryan originates from such a background

No.
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2012, 12:00:44 pm »
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Yes, we're in the middle of the Romney bump.
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2012, 12:07:09 pm »
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Does Ryan really help in OH with "white working class" voters?

Yes -- in fact because Ryan originates from such a background

No.

I don't know if he really does help or not (it's certainly not unreasonable to say he does), but it certainly is unreasonable to say Ryan does not originate from just such a background -- read his biography: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan#Early_political_career

He had to supplement his job as a Capitol Hill staffer with various menial side jobs in order to make ends meet -- although his father was apparently a middle-class attorney, Ryan himself was a member of the working class before pulling himself up.
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2012, 12:11:29 pm »
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Let's not ignore the fact that Romney didn't gain a thing from the last poll, he's still at 45%, which seems to be his average number in most swing states. Again, where is the growth?
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2012, 12:29:02 pm »
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Between this and the PPP poll, Obama up 1-3.
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2012, 12:33:21 pm »
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Alas, I agree quite strongly with the GOP posters above - Ryan is just the sort to appeal to white working class voters.  A more masochistic and self-destructive group of people has never existed on the earth, and I think Democrats often have difficulty understanding that this is the key to their voting patterns.

The new map, for the moment (could get worse):



Virginia and Florida are now the only hope..
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2012, 12:37:01 pm »
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Yeah, there's a bit of a bump going on here.
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2012, 12:47:22 pm »
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Worst case scenario if Ryan really 'clicks' with the white working class.

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2012, 12:58:10 pm »
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Worst case scenario if Ryan really 'clicks' with the white working class.



Why exactly are you running around like a chicken with your head cut off about this?
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2012, 01:01:03 pm »
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Why exactly are you running around like a chicken with your head cut off about this?

Because I think Democrats don't understand the white working class.  I hate it, but this Ryan thing is the master-stroke.
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2012, 01:20:58 pm »
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Alas, I agree quite strongly with the GOP posters above - Ryan is just the sort to appeal to white working class voters.  A more masochistic and self-destructive group of people has never existed on the earth, and I think Democrats often have difficulty understanding that this is the key to their voting patterns.

The new map, for the moment (could get worse):



Virginia and Florida are now the only hope..

Opebo, I come from a family of white, working-class voters and none of them are masochistic or self-destructive. 

Relax Democrats.  Challengers almost always get a slight uptick in the polls after their VP pick due to the rush of enthusiasm that is injected into the party.  Every other pollster has Obama up in the state, and the (by far) most GOP-friendly pollster in the state only has the race tied in the middle of a bump for Romney. 
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2012, 01:23:08 pm »

Didn't President Kerry get like a 5% bounce too in the polls after he picked Edwards ?
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2012, 01:26:14 pm »
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If him climbing to a tie in a must-win state constitutes a bump, I'm not too worried. Let's see some more polls.
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2012, 01:57:21 pm »
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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2012, 02:16:07 pm »
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Its a Scotty poll lol.
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2012, 05:28:30 pm »
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Ahh yes the tables are turning. This is good to see. Romney-Ryan charging ahead. In a day or two we will see a poll with Romney-Ryan ahead in Wisco.
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2012, 05:45:26 pm »
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Ahh yes the tables are turning. This is good to see. Romney-Ryan charging ahead. In a day or two we will see a poll with Romney-Ryan ahead in Wisco.
LOL What poll are you looking at? Romney did t move up at all, it all constitutes a MOE Obama fall of 2 points. Romney is stuck at 45 percent, and 46 percent nationally. If all a Romney bump did was pull Obama down to a tie and Romney didn't move ahead, or even move at all, you should be very worried.
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