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« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2012, 02:05:00 PM »

Dodgy poll puts Mitt up in Colorado, while two other polls released the same day show a tie and an equal Obama lead = Romney narrowly leads in Colorado?

Well it's good to know that this map is a complete joke then.
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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2012, 06:50:52 AM »
« Edited: August 09, 2012, 06:55:24 AM by AmericanNation »



IF held today = Obama 288         / Romney 235(-34)    / Toss 15
"Swing_less" = Obama 243(-27) / Romney 206(-63)   / Toss 89
"swing score"= Obama 45          /  Romney 29           / Toss 15
IN "Swing_State-us" = 8 states.  =less(23 R / 19[+DC] D)
Closest states to becoming tossups = NC, NV



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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2012, 08:20:50 AM »

My swing state map:

Obama- 193
Romney- 191
Toss-Up- 154
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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2012, 08:25:32 AM »

Watch Obama win NV by double digits again.

After Reid beating the polls by so much in 2010, it wouldn't surprise me. Nevada's only grown more hispanic since 2008.
Yes, but remember, Reid was helped by the impression of Angle as a right-wing extremist (ala Goldwater 1964), the fake "Tea Party" candidate, and the "None of these candidates" option on the ballot.  If Sue Lowden had been the GOP nominee, she would have beat him.  That's the problem with ideological purity: half a loaf is better than no bread, and if we aren't willing to have to victory of some of our policies rather than the defeat of all of them, we will never be able to govern long-term.  And also, Nevada has a large Mormon population, so that could help Romne offset Obama's margins with Latinos.
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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2012, 08:52:17 AM »

My swing state map:

Obama- 193
Romney- 191
Toss-Up- 154

How is it possible to consider New Mexico a tossup at this point?
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« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2012, 08:59:47 AM »

My swing state map:

Obama- 193
Romney- 191
Toss-Up- 154
Yea, I have a "pinned" category where a swing-ish state shows a solid/consistent/likely lean, even though it is quite possible that it could theoretically flip.  Obama has PA, MI, NM, and NV "pinned" right now.  I expect NV will become pure-swing eventually.  NM and MI are other possibilities.  Romney has NC and will probably have FL (if he maintains a slight lead in national polls) pinned, especially after the VP and convention bumps.        
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« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2012, 09:05:08 AM »

How is it possible to consider New Mexico a tossup at this point?
Trend and history.  Obama at 42% is a pretty freighting thing for an incumbent president.  I have it as a pinned-down-swing-state, but it could become competitive relatively easily.     
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« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2012, 04:01:19 PM »

My swing state map:

Obama- 193
Romney- 191
Toss-Up- 154

How is it possible to consider New Mexico a tossup at this point?
New Mexico is a swing state, and remember, Gore only carried it by 366 votes in 2000 and Bush narrowly carried it in 2004.
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« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2012, 08:11:09 PM »

How is it possible to consider New Mexico a tossup at this point?
New Mexico is a swing state, and remember, Gore only carried it by 366 votes in 2000 and Bush narrowly carried it in 2004.

Bush was able to actually appeal to Hispanics. McCain didn't and I see no reason to believe that Romney will either.
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« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2012, 01:17:25 PM »

How is it possible to consider New Mexico a tossup at this point?
New Mexico is a swing state, and remember, Gore only carried it by 366 votes in 2000 and Bush narrowly carried it in 2004.

Bush was able to actually appeal to Hispanics. McCain didn't and I see no reason to believe that Romney will either.
Good point, but it's still a swing state.  The only thing that will change that is a realignment on the level of 1980 or 1992.
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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2012, 09:05:59 AM »

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...looks like a nice little trend toward Romney/Ryan.  They have certainly established a path to victory.   
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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2012, 10:26:52 AM »

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...looks like a nice little trend toward Romney/Ryan.  They have certainly established a path to victory.   

What's your evidence that Ryan is helping in IA or VA, or that WI is anything but a tossup.
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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2012, 11:16:41 AM »

My swing state map:

Obama- 193
Romney- 191
Toss-Up- 154

How is it possible to consider New Mexico a tossup at this point?
New Mexico is a swing state, and remember, Gore only carried it by 366 votes in 2000 and Bush narrowly carried it in 2004.

Why is SC more Republican than Louisiana, Tennessee,  Arkansas, or Kentucky?
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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2012, 04:26:54 PM »

My swing state map:

Obama- 193
Romney- 191
Toss-Up- 154

How is it possible to consider New Mexico a tossup at this point?
New Mexico is a swing state, and remember, Gore only carried it by 366 votes in 2000 and Bush narrowly carried it in 2004.

Why is SC more Republican than Louisiana, Tennessee,  Arkansas, or Kentucky?
Louisiana should be more Republican than South Carolina.  Arizona should be more Republican than Missouri. New Mexico, Nevada, lean Obama.
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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2012, 05:16:57 PM »

My swing state map:

Obama- 193
Romney- 191
Toss-Up- 154

How is it possible to consider New Mexico a tossup at this point?
New Mexico is a swing state, and remember, Gore only carried it by 366 votes in 2000 and Bush narrowly carried it in 2004.

Why is SC more Republican than Louisiana, Tennessee,  Arkansas, or Kentucky?
Louisiana should be more Republican than South Carolina.  Arizona should be more Republican than Missouri. New Mexico, Nevada, lean Obama.

While the margin of Mitt's victory may well be smaller than that of  Louisiana, Tennessee,  Arkansas, or Kentucky, it is safely Mitt's.  We have compared to most places a very small middle. (Politically that is, we don't fare as well on obesity.)  Nate Silver pointed out on his 538 blog that SC has the third smallest swing according to his measures.  Mitt has no chance of getting 60% of the vote here, but he also has no chance of getting less than 50%.
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« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2012, 05:33:59 PM »

Nevada is still a swing state, even if Obama leads in the polls there.  And they also have a large Mormon population that could help Romney offset Pres. Obama's likely margins with Latinos there.
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« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2012, 06:25:48 PM »

If you look at the swing state maps at NBC, CNN, WaPo and RCP they all agree the following are swing states: NV, NH, WI, IA, CO, OH, VA, FL.

A couple also still list NC as a swing state other two list as lean Romney. All are calling PA, MI, and NM as lean Obama. If you look at current spending, neither campaign is putting much into those three states.
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