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« on: August 18, 2012, 05:39:16 AM »

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/08/16/mitt-romney-might-not-be-on-the-washington-state-ballot-in-november/

Due to technicalities in Washington State law, American’s most famous Mormon, Mitt Romney, may not be on the ballot in the state come November because the Republican Party doesn’t currently qualify as a “major party” any more. The Stranger laid out the details earlier this month:

    RCW 29A.04.086 tells us that “”Major political party” means a political party of which at least one nominee for president, vice president, United States senator, or a statewide office received at least five percent of the total vote cast at the last preceding state general election in an even-numbered year.”

    In 2010, the only state-wide race was a race for U.S. Senate.

    The Republican Party did not nominate any candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010 because neither the Rossi contingent nor the Didier contingent wanted to risk losing a nomination vote at the 2010 state convention of the Republican Party.

    Because the “Top-2″ primary is only a winnowing primary – not a nominating primary – Mr. Rossi, who proceeded through the Top-2, was not the Republican Party nominee.


Because the two Republicans running for the US Senate seat in 2010 weren’t officially nominated by the Republican Party, that means the Republican Party didn’t get at least 5% of the vote in a statewide election. And that, in turn, means Romney would have had to file as a minor party candidate (requiring his campaign to collect at least a thousand voter signatures at a nominating convention taking place after the first Saturday of June and the last Saturday of July.) And, it seems, Romney’s campaign did not do that.

Back when The Stranger first reported on this, no one expected that Washington’s Secretary of State would actually leave Romney’s name off of the ballot because of this technicality. But now it seems the Libertarian Party is suing (PDF) to keep Romney’s name off.

The suit seeks an order declaring that the Washington State Republican Party is “minor party” for purposes of the 2012 general election and directing the Secretary of State to issue ballots for the November election that do not contain the printed name of any Republican Party nominee.
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2012, 05:49:51 AM »

Back when The Stranger first reported on this, no one expected that Washington’s Secretary of State would actually leave Romney’s name off of the ballot because of this technicality.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2012, 08:43:24 AM »

Mr. Rossi, who proceeded through the Top-2, was not the Republican Party nominee.

LOL. If Romney really is left off the ballot in Washington, expect a big thing made about Democrats manipulating the voting process in right-wing circles (the Libertarians are doing it, but that doesn't matter), and probably a nice sympathy bump for Romney, because he's being 'discriminated' against.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2012, 08:46:28 AM »

This is just hillarious.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2012, 08:47:43 AM »

There are stories like this every 4 years. Nothing ever comes of it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2012, 10:02:17 AM »

There are stories like this every 4 years. Nothing ever comes of it.

Yeah, Bush technically didn't qualify for the Alabama ballot in 2004 because the Republican Convention was held too late. Needless to say, he was allowed on.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2012, 10:03:50 AM »

I think the far more likely scenario is that a judge throws out this portion of state law as being confusing and contradictory and orders the State Legislature to rewrite it.
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2012, 11:14:33 AM »

I think the far more likely scenario is that a judge throws out this portion of state law as being confusing and contradictory and orders the State Legislature to rewrite it.

It sure seems like no one considered this part of state law when they went to the current top-2 system. I don't know if its genesis through initiative affects how the WA courts interpret conflicting statute.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2012, 11:17:51 AM »

This is an idiotic technicality and will never be upheld.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2012, 11:24:41 AM »

There are stories like this every 4 years. Nothing ever comes of it.

Yeah, Bush technically didn't qualify for the Alabama ballot in 2004 because the Republican Convention was held too late. Needless to say, he was allowed on.

And Bush went on to win Alabama IN A LANDSLIDE.
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2012, 11:30:56 AM »

There are stories like this every 4 years. Nothing ever comes of it.

Yeah, Bush technically didn't qualify for the Alabama ballot in 2004 because the Republican Convention was held too late. Needless to say, he was allowed on.

And Bush went on to win Alabama IN A LANDSLIDE.

Your point?
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2012, 11:44:54 AM »

N. Korea one party voting habits must be popular in Washington.
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2012, 11:53:37 AM »

Even if he didn't get on it (which he will), it wouldn't really matter. I guess it'd hurt his national PV total a little.
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2012, 12:06:15 PM »

There are stories like this every 4 years. Nothing ever comes of it.

Yeah, Bush technically didn't qualify for the Alabama ballot in 2004 because the Republican Convention was held too late. Needless to say, he was allowed on.

And Bush went on to win Alabama IN A LANDSLIDE.

Your point?

Who knows? Romney will win Washington? It was a pretty pointless post.
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2012, 12:28:45 PM »

There are stories like this every 4 years. Nothing ever comes of it.

Yeah, Bush technically didn't qualify for the Alabama ballot in 2004 because the Republican Convention was held too late. Needless to say, he was allowed on.

And Bush went on to win Alabama IN A LANDSLIDE.

Your point?

Who knows? Romney will win Washington? It was a pretty pointless post.

You're certainly right, but I still would like to see Winfield explaining his reasoning Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2012, 12:33:33 PM »

What a f--king retarded thread
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2012, 03:43:19 PM »
« Edited: August 18, 2012, 04:36:37 PM by BIDEN TO BLACKS: THEY'LL PUT Y'ALL BACK IN CHAINS »

There are stories like this every 4 years. Nothing ever comes of it.

Yeah, Bush technically didn't qualify for the Alabama ballot in 2004 because the Republican Convention was held too late. Needless to say, he was allowed on.

And Bush went on to win Alabama IN A LANDSLIDE.

Your point?

Who knows? Romney will win Washington? It was a pretty pointless post.

You're certainly right, but I still would like to see Winfield explaining his reasoning Smiley

I am simply stating the obvious that Bush was allowed on the ballot in spite of dumb technacalities and that Bush went on to win the state.

This is not to imply that Romney is going to win Washington.  He isn't.  But he is still going to win well over one million votes there.
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2012, 03:46:49 PM »

Ah yes, the great state of Washington, where Democrats keep holding recounts until they get the results they want, ala Gregoire.

No wonder it's difficult for a Republican to win there.
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2012, 04:52:26 PM »

Is there a Washingtonian reading this thread willing to put this little twat in his place? Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2012, 05:23:13 PM »

I think the far more likely scenario is that a judge throws out this portion of state law as being confusing and contradictory and orders the State Legislature to rewrite it.

Yes, and denial of due process, and truncating the right to vote, lacking a reasonable basis, and a few other things, meaning even if that were the law, it would be tossed on Constitutional grounds.
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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2012, 06:05:24 PM »

N. Korea one party voting habits must be popular in Washington.
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2012, 06:19:12 PM »

Ah yes, the great state of Washington, where Democrats keep holding recounts until they get the results they want, ala Gregoire.

No wonder it's difficult for a Republican to win there.


Our Republican SOS actually said that the recount and the final results were completely legitimate...
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2012, 06:57:33 PM »

I think the far more likely scenario is that a judge throws out this portion of state law as being confusing and contradictory and orders the State Legislature to rewrite it.

Yes, and denial of due process, and truncating the right to vote, lacking a reasonable basis, and a few other things, meaning even if that were the law, it would be tossed on Constitutional grounds.

None of those reasons worked to get the over 200 candidates thrown off the ballot back on the ballot here in the South Carolina primaries here this year.  The case may very well hinge on the meaning of the word "nominate".  The case that caused our primaries to get blown up was intended to get only 1 candidate thrown off the ballot.  It's possible both Obama and Romney get tossed off as the current top-two primary system has no formal mechanism in place for a party to nominate. That would be funny until the Washington legislature revises the law to put them both back on the ballot.  More likely, I'd think the court would accept that under the broad provisions granted for political parties to determine their own rules that so long as the WA GOP endorsed Rossi before the General election, he counts as their nominee or that since he was listed on the general election ballot as a Republican he counts as their nominee.

Also, I suspect the main point of this lawsuit is not to knock Romney off the ballot (not that the Libertarians would be unhappy if it did), but to get a formal ruling on what constitutes a nominee for the purposes of RCW 29A.04.086 in preparation for a second lawsuit over it being too strict in its definition, since the effective floor is far higher than 5% with the top-two primary since a candidate needs far more that 5% of the whole electorate to even make the top-two.
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2012, 07:01:57 PM »

N. Korea one party voting habits must be popular in Washington.
One of the dumbest responses I've ever seen. Nothing says Stalinist dictatorship like Washington state.
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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2012, 08:04:03 PM »

Is there a Washingtonian reading this thread willing to put this little twat in his place? Smiley

BRING          IT          ON!  Smiley
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