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Question: What's your stance on abortion?
Abortion should be legal and federally funded   -44 (41.9%)
Abortion should be legal, but not federally funded   -29 (27.6%)
Abortion should not be legal and should not be federally funded   -29 (27.6%)
Other (please specify)   -3 (2.9%)
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Total Voters: 104

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« on: August 18, 2012, 02:33:56 pm »
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Go.

I tend to agree the most with option 2.
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2012, 02:37:43 pm »
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Option 3
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2012, 02:42:21 pm »
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Option 2, though I support option 1 for people who are already receiving federal health care (people on Medicaid).
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2012, 02:44:09 pm »
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Abortion should not be legal, but should be federally funded.

Lean option 2.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2012, 02:59:56 pm »
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Legal and federally funded.  Excising a fetus is expensive, yall.
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2012, 03:28:07 pm »
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Option 2.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2012, 04:00:37 pm »
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Legal and federally funded.  Excising a fetus is expensive, yall.

Expensive it may be, but why would others want to pay for it?
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2012, 04:44:46 pm »
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Abortion should certainly be legal. As to federal funding, if a universal healthcare system exists, then it's only fair to include abortion, but it would be best if such a system didn't exist.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2012, 04:49:26 pm »
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Abortions are medical procedures that are, at times medically recommended and potentially life saving for the mother. There is no rationale I can agree with that makes abortion legal, but also not federally supported.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2012, 04:49:36 pm »
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Option one, but I could support option two if necessary.

Abortions are medical procedures that are, at times medically recommended and potentially life saving for the mother. There is no rationale I can agree with that makes abortion legal, but also not federally supported.

I guess the rationale is having to navigate a political system filled with fundies, moderate heroes and corporate cronies.
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2012, 06:23:59 pm »
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Option 1 with reservations (restrictions on 2nd trimester abortions and a near-total ban on 3rd trimester abortions)
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2012, 06:38:59 pm »
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Option 1.  The first two are free, the third one you pay for with your ovaries.
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2012, 06:51:38 pm »
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Legal and federally funded.  Excising a fetus is expensive, yall.

Expensive it may be, but why would others want to pay for it?

Because overall, making abortions available to all regardless of their socioeconomic status would be beneficial.

Though of course, I don't support the federal government at all.  But as long as we're going to have this bourgeois society, we might as well fund stuff like that.
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2012, 07:37:35 pm »
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Option 1 with reservations (restrictions on 2nd trimester abortions and a near-total ban on 3rd trimester abortions)
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2012, 07:49:30 pm »
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Abortions for all!
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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2012, 01:44:43 pm »
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how about a tax deduction for abortions?
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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2012, 03:14:30 pm »
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Flush 'em. And encourage dumb young women to do so. But that'll never happen because the government can't make more money for its members without population growth, so babies will continue to be softly encouraged.
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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2012, 04:17:38 pm »
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Ban it.

I must admit that the number of people supporting option 1 is disturbing. I have accepted that most people here favor the 'right' to abort, but state funding is another story.
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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2012, 04:24:36 pm »
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Option 1 and 1/2th.

Abortions should be legal but only have federal funding for extenuating circumstances.  Kind of like unemployment comp or something like that.

I'm not sure I would be in favor of MORE abortions, but I can say that having a state ban on abortions sets a pretty dangerous precedent.  Primarily, I'm concerned that such bans could have ramifications that give the state a blank check to control a person's body.
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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2012, 04:51:05 pm »
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closer to 3 but obviously simply banning abortion won't necessarily stop it, having access to forms of birth control and certain social services would help reduce the rate more regardless of legality (sane).
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2012, 08:18:14 pm »
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Flush 'em. And encourage dumb young women to do so. But that'll never happen because the government can't make more money for its members without population growth, so babies will continue to be softly encouraged.

Who decides which young women are dumb?  Or are you assuming that about all of them?
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2012, 09:12:50 am »
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Option 1 and 1/2th.

Abortions should be legal but only have federal funding for extenuating circumstances.  Kind of like unemployment comp or something like that.

I'm not sure I would be in favor of MORE abortions, but I can say that having a state ban on abortions sets a pretty dangerous precedent.  Primarily, I'm concerned that such bans could have ramifications that give the state a blank check to control a person's body.

...perhaps if a state can mandate a person keeping a fetus to term, it can mandate abortion as well.
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2012, 10:07:39 am »
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Option 1 and 1/2th.

Abortions should be legal but only have federal funding for extenuating circumstances.  Kind of like unemployment comp or something like that.

I'm not sure I would be in favor of MORE abortions, but I can say that having a state ban on abortions sets a pretty dangerous precedent.  Primarily, I'm concerned that such bans could have ramifications that give the state a blank check to control a person's body.

...perhaps if a state can mandate a person keeping a fetus to term, it can mandate abortion as well.

Yes, very much so.

The state could get a blank check to regulate the population of certain groups if given such power.
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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2012, 10:17:29 am »
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Option 1 and 1/2th.

Abortions should be legal but only have federal funding for extenuating circumstances.  Kind of like unemployment comp or something like that.

I'm not sure I would be in favor of MORE abortions, but I can say that having a state ban on abortions sets a pretty dangerous precedent.  Primarily, I'm concerned that such bans could have ramifications that give the state a blank check to control a person's body.

...perhaps if a state can mandate a person keeping a fetus to term, it can mandate abortion as well.

Yes, very much so.

The state could get a blank check to regulate the population of certain groups if given such power.

Perhaps population control conspiracies aren't as far from the truth as they might seem and perhaps are propagated by those who are likely allied with the conspirators themselves.
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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2012, 10:42:24 am »
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Abortion should be legal except for in the third trimester unless the mother's health is in serious jeopardy. My attitude on federal funding would vary based on the type of health care system in place, but in principle I am not at all opposed to option one in this poll.
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