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« on: August 08, 2012, 11:06:37 pm »
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In 2013 it looks like we may fall back into recession. So if Romney wins, can Obama come back and win in 2016? He could just say "I told you so". You know, pull a Grover Cleveland.
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2012, 08:04:02 am »
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I don't think Obama would have a shot in 2016. He would never get nominated. He isn't popular enough with his own party to pull a Grover.
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2012, 09:35:59 am »
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I don't think Obama would have a shot in 2016. He would never get nominated. He isn't popular enough with his own party to pull a Grover.

This. The Democrats would turn to somebody else. Why would they select a candidate that was defeated 4 years earlier? Pulling a Grover Cleveland in modern day would be nearly impossible.
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2012, 10:25:07 am »
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I think so. If Obama were a one-term President, he would be the only one in my father's lifetime to not face a primary challenge. Ford was challenged by Reagan. Carter was challenged by Brown and Ted Kennedy. Bush was challenged by Buchanan. There was never any serious suggestion that anyone significant would primary Obama.

That suggests that the base really likes him and that he is rather popular with his own party. He also has a few accomplishments that Democratic primary voters should be happy with (The repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, the Reversal of Bush's torture policies, Wall Street Reform, End of War in Iraq.) Many of his current supporters would want him to run just for the chance at saving his legacy.

He would also start out with universal name recognition, which would make it difficult for any of his primary opponents to shine. With the exception of Hillary Clinton.

I suspect that if Hillary ran, Obama wouldn't, because it would be a more even match. And I doubt he wants the potential shame of losing the primary.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2012, 11:55:28 am »
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Not unless 2012 were tainted by multiple recalls and questionable recounts etc. Maybe if Obama lost the electoral vote but won the popular vote. Think 2000 on steroids. Maybe, maybe then since in 2004 and even 2008 there was a significant group within the Democratic party that wanted Gore in the race. It would have to have been a very contentious election night, etc. or even another Supreme Court ruling for this to be possible however.
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2012, 08:19:10 am »
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Interestingly, the last former President who actually attempted a comeback was Herbert Hoover at the 1940 Republican Convention. Well, he wasn't too popular among his own party, much less general electorate, but had some delegate strength and hoped that with deadlocked first ballots, he may emerge as a compromise candidate.
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2012, 05:41:02 pm »
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He's said this will be his last campaign, and I take him at his word, as hard as that is for me to do.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2012, 11:13:13 pm »
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It's possible, but it will need a Cleveland like result.  Cleveland lost the electoral college in 1888 but won the popular vote.  If Gore had wanted the nomination in 2004 he could have had it and he might well have beat Bush then, but we'll never know.
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