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« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2012, 10:12:41 pm »
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What is clear is that this campaign is the lowest and most embarrassing display of national leadership I have seen in my life... but I believe when including Super PACs and when considering that Obama is the President and thus more is expected of him to dignify that office, I believe Obama's campaign is dirtier
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« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2012, 10:18:32 pm »
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Both are bad, but as someone who just spent months in a state carpet bombed by ads from both sides, I can tell you that Obama's are dirtier. Both can be misleading but Obama's actually lies.
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« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2012, 10:19:34 pm »
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From Wiki, Governor Romney reversed the financial situation in Massachusetts from a huge deficit to a huge surplus.  He will do the same for America.

Upon entering office in the middle of a fiscal year, he faced an immediate $650 million shortfall and a projected $3 billion deficit for the next year. Unexpected revenue of $1.0–1.3 billion from a previously enacted capital gains tax increase and $500 million in unanticipated federal grants decreased the deficit to $1.2–1.5 billion. Through a combination of spending cuts, increased fees, and removal of corporate tax loopholes, the state ran surpluses of around $600–700 million for the last two full fiscal years Romney was in office, although it began running deficits again after that.

Yeah, having a surplus is easier than you'd think when nothing ever gets done on time and the unemployment rate is going down because people are leaving the state, isn't it? And the surplus would have been EVEN BIGGER if they had just let Governor Romney follow through on his attempted plan to charge people twenty-five bucks for having the temerity to be blind!
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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2012, 10:37:00 pm »
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I don't know which is dirtier, but the Liberal activists at least on this forum are bent on race-baiting and inciting an ugly race war with numerous statements proclaiming Romney and Ryan supporters "Racists" and "Bigots" 

Liberals can't run on any successful issues so they have to resort to ugly divisive attacks meant to inspire hatred and violence in our communities. 

Congrats Libs.  I think Joe Biden's comments will be the high point of the campaign.  We're just going to here more terrible things from the Dems here on out as they resort to desperate measures meant to incite anger amongst its base. 

Obama's new message: "Romney voters are Racists and Bigots"
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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2012, 11:50:14 pm »
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Harry Reid the "dirty liar" and Joe Biden the race baiter, the standard bearers in Dem campaign tactics, and new heroes to Dem hacks.
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« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2012, 11:53:44 pm »
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Anyone who is arguing one campaign or the other has NOT lied about anything needs to take a long look in the mirror... Tongue
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« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2012, 12:13:45 am »
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Both are pretty bad.

I voted for the Obama campaign in the poll but then again I'm hardly an impartial source.

To quite honest folks, as long as most Americans see more value in scoring cheap political points by taking the easy road of convincing themselves their political opponents are the human incarnation of Satan himself than having something resembling a constructive debate, we're only going to see more and more of this. Politics is now entertainment rather than information. It's a constant barrage of lies aimed at demonizing the other side and pretending they aren't human. But hey once you say some complete bullsh!t about the other side just claim it's "ironic" or "hyperbole" or that you were joking. Take a cheap shot to feel good about yourself; these days it's the American way.

After years of Republicans on the street calling Obama an Atheist Muslim Socialist born in Kenya whose life ambition is to increase the dominance of the government so he can control everyone's lives and now the wave of Democrats on the street saying Mitt Romney isn't a person, hates dogs, causes cancer, and wants to reinstate slavery and Paul Ryan is actually Ayn Ran, quite frankly we as the American people don't deserve much better than what we're getting.
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« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2012, 02:12:06 am »
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I haven't found either campaign to be particularly dirty. The candidates are much too bland for that.
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« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2012, 02:18:02 am »
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I haven't found either campaign to be particularly dirty. The candidates are much too bland for that.
The Obama campaign had an ad that essentially blamed Romney for the death of lady for Christ's sake.
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« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2012, 08:30:14 am »
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I haven't found either campaign to be particularly dirty. The candidates are much too bland for that.
The Obama campaign had an ad that essentially blamed Romney for the death of lady for Christ's sake.

No, they didn't.
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« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2012, 12:32:06 pm »
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I haven't found either campaign to be particularly dirty. The candidates are much too bland for that.
The Obama campaign had an ad that essentially blamed Romney for the death of lady for Christ's sake.

No, they didn't.

That was the obvious clear implication of the ad. And please don't say "it was a SuperPAC ad, not an Obama one." We all know the SuperPACs aren't as independent as they claim to be.
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« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2012, 12:33:34 pm »
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That was the obvious clear implication of the ad. And please don't say "it was a SuperPAC ad, not an Obama one." We all know the SuperPACs aren't as independent as they claim to be.

Precisely why my first post indicated toss in the PACs with the campaigns.....there's no real difference, just a legal distinction.
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« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2012, 12:40:58 pm »
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Romney's campaign is more dishonest.
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« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2012, 01:06:42 pm »
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Obama's.

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« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2012, 01:13:06 pm »
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I'm going to go with the campaign that made up a claim about welfare to stoke racial tensions and then refused to take the ad down when called on their BS.
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