SENATE BILL: Equal Rights Amendment (Sent to the Regions)
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« Reply #100 on: August 26, 2012, 07:31:28 PM »

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« Reply #101 on: August 26, 2012, 07:38:50 PM »

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« Reply #102 on: August 26, 2012, 09:10:50 PM »

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« Reply #103 on: August 26, 2012, 10:54:19 PM »

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« Reply #104 on: August 26, 2012, 11:09:04 PM »

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« Reply #105 on: August 27, 2012, 07:21:23 AM »

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« Reply #106 on: August 27, 2012, 08:28:56 AM »

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« Reply #107 on: August 27, 2012, 01:33:24 PM »

Nay, if we are discussing the amendment being proposed to the bill.
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« Reply #108 on: August 27, 2012, 08:16:07 PM »
« Edited: August 27, 2012, 08:19:22 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

It think that such an amendment would result in the underlying Constitutional Amendment itself being rendered self-defeating in terms of its ultimate goals. So I will vote Nay.

Perhaps a better wording would have achieved the goal of the amendment author, but I don't know what that would be and none such was arrived at in the deliberations.
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« Reply #109 on: August 27, 2012, 08:18:02 PM »

Vote on Amendment 50:33 by TJ in Cleve:

Aye (2): Clarence and TJ in Cleve
Nay (6): AndrewCT, Ben, NC Yankee, Redalgo, sbane and Scott
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): Seatown

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« Reply #110 on: August 27, 2012, 08:20:33 PM »

Is Clarence going to introduce his text as an amendment?
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« Reply #111 on: August 28, 2012, 10:38:27 AM »

I figure it is best to separate my amendments....

Amendment 1

No organization shall be required to alter its membership policies as a consequence of this amendment
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« Reply #112 on: August 28, 2012, 02:29:09 PM »

The amendment is unfriendly.
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« Reply #113 on: August 28, 2012, 10:29:01 PM »

I figure it is best to separate my amendments....

Amendment 1

No organization shall be required to alter its membership policies as a consequence of this amendment

I am sorry Clarence, but there is no indication of how this would be incorporated into the text. Therefore I have to flag this under Article 4, Section 2, Clause 1 of the OSPR. Could you please revise the text?
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« Reply #114 on: August 29, 2012, 02:25:12 PM »

I'm sorry about that... this is intended to go underneath the entire ERA



Scott- I expected to get this designated unfriendly...but can you please explain why organizations such as womens' clubs or fraternal organizations should be expected to open their membership to all when gender exclusivity is one of the purposes of their existence?
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« Reply #115 on: August 29, 2012, 02:32:41 PM »

I just don't feel that the amendment is necessary.  If it were, then I'd expect such a provision would have been included in the original text as it was written in 1923.

Also, after some thought, I've come to interpret the text of the ERA as it mainly addresses the government's relationship with its citizens, rather than those of private organizations/businesses with their members/consumers.
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« Reply #116 on: August 29, 2012, 08:03:33 PM »

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« Reply #117 on: August 29, 2012, 08:09:40 PM »

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« Reply #118 on: August 29, 2012, 09:39:05 PM »

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« Reply #119 on: August 29, 2012, 11:34:20 PM »

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« Reply #120 on: August 30, 2012, 07:16:27 AM »

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« Reply #121 on: August 30, 2012, 07:49:26 AM »

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« Reply #122 on: August 30, 2012, 11:01:27 AM »

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« Reply #123 on: August 30, 2012, 11:40:46 AM »

Aye


My concern is not over the sponsors' intentions for this amendment... or the President's or the AG's...my concern is how any court in the nation can interpret any piece of it for a situation. It is much too broad

However-I can see the writing on the wall. This will pass and pass as is...my amendments will not. I will not be proposing any more amendments to allow us to move on
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« Reply #124 on: August 31, 2012, 08:21:10 PM »

Nay



Vote on the Amendment 50:34 by Clarence :

Aye (2): Clarence and TJ in Cleve
Nay (6): AndrewTX, Ben, NC Yankee, Redalgo, Scott and Seatown
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): sbane

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