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All Along The Watchtower
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« on: August 23, 2012, 03:34:45 PM »

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusionism



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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2012, 04:24:08 PM »

One of the main reasons libertarians aren't taken seriously.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2012, 06:23:59 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2012, 06:47:04 PM »

Horrible ideology. It combines the worst of both.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2012, 07:22:27 PM »

There's some hope for them if they can be brought to tolerance; it's rather reminiscent of paleoconservatism almost.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2012, 11:38:12 PM »

One of the main reasons libertarians aren't taken seriously.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2012, 10:56:29 PM »

 HI.
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2012, 11:02:49 PM »

HI; coercing people to adhere to traditional social mores, hierarchies, and capitalism on a person-to-person basis is only somewhat less authoritarian than coercing them to do so using the state.
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2012, 01:46:25 PM »

FI, though I prefer paleoconservatism.
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2012, 01:01:46 PM »


That's a really strange definition.  In a way, fusionism came about an attempt to find an approach that held together the various strains of conservatism as they existed in the 50s and 60s. Fusionism's opposition to coercion in the name of virtue is good corrective to more authoritarian understandings of conservatism, and has a better account of liberty than Objectivism at least, but severe weaknesses as well. The idea that big government in the modern age is an enemy both to individual freedom and traditional forms of community, is I think very much correct, but that insight precedes fusionism.  Sometimes hawkish anticommunism was tagged onto this as a third leg to the stool, which makes some sense as an opposition to the Left but takes away from the integrity of fusionism as an idea.  Ultimately it's become the basis for a political movement rather than an ideology.
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2012, 02:27:26 PM »

I'm a neoconservative and that sounds a lot like me.  If I had been alive in the 60s, I probably would have been pro-civil rights and maybe even pro-contraception, but I also would have opposed violence and many of the more radical objectives of many New Left activists.  If that's what fusionism meant back then, then I would have been one then, much like I am now.  FI.
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2012, 05:27:59 PM »

I'm a neoconservative and that sounds a lot like me.  If I had been alive in the 60s, I probably would have been pro-civil rights and maybe even pro-contraception, but I also would have opposed violence and many of the more radical objectives of many New Left activists.  If that's what fusionism meant back then, then I would have been one then, much like I am now.  FI.

I'm not sure where you get that from. You've just described most liberal Hubert Humphrey supporters and Rockefeller Republicans.
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2012, 05:57:31 PM »

I'm a neoconservative and that sounds a lot like me.  If I had been alive in the 60s, I probably would have been pro-civil rights and maybe even pro-contraception, but I also would have opposed violence and many of the more radical objectives of many New Left activists.  If that's what fusionism meant back then, then I would have been one then, much like I am now.  FI.

I'm not sure where you get that from. You've just described most liberal Hubert Humphrey supporters and Rockefeller Republicans.
Then I would have been a Rockefeller Republican.  I would have probably supported Nixon in 1968.  I think my positions are probably closer to Spiro Agnew than Hubert Humphrey or Nelson Rockefeller, as much as I admire Rocky.
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2012, 03:17:49 PM »

The basis of my overall ideology.

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