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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2012, 05:17:48 pm »
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I only disagree with the 'No Abortions Except In Cases of Rape or Incest' and the 'No Legal Recognition of Same-Sex Couples' line. I'm split on the tax proposals but support them in theory.
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2012, 05:38:37 pm »
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    NO ABORTION IN CASES OF RAPE OR INCEST. The proposal for a “human life amendment” passed without a hitch — and without any exceptions for rape or incest. The committee didn’t stop there; they also adopted language that would ban drugs that end pregnancy after conception, which could potentially include Plan B, the “morning after pill.”

    SALUTE TO MANDATORY ULTRASOUNDS. The GOP officially praises states’ “informed consent” laws that force women to undergo unnecessary procedures, require waiting periods and endure other measures meant to discourage them from getting an abortion. One such law receiving a “salute” was crafted by committee head McDonnell, who passed a notorious mandatory ultrasound requirement after he signed an unsuccessful bill to require an even more invasive transvaginal probe ultrasound during an abortion consultation.

    NO LEGAL RECOGNITION OF SAME-SEX COUPLES. The committee embraced extreme anti-gay language, even rejecting a proposal to endorse civil unions for gay couples after vehement objections from Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council and Romney adviser Jim Bopp, who called it a “counterfeit marriage.” The rejection of civil unions, along with the refusal to include a line affirming the legal equality of same-sex couples prompted the organization GOProud to declare, “Those who have engaged in this public platform fight have provided distraction from important issues and damaged Mitt Romney’s campaign.”

    REPLICATE ARIZONA-STYLE IMMIGRATION LAWS. Kris Kobach, who wrote the now mostly invalidated immigration laws in Arizona and Alabama, pushed for language calling for a border fence, a national E-Verify system to make it harder for undocumented workers to find employment, the end of in-state tuition for illegal immigrants and an end to sanctuary cities. The committee overwhelmingly approved the proposals, as well as a line chastising the Department of Justice to halt the lawsuits against draconian immigration laws in Arizona, Alabama, South Carolina and Utah: “State efforts to reduce illegal immigration must be encouraged, not attacked.”

    AUDIT THE FED. The pet project of Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) to audit the Federal Reserve has now been embraced as an official Republican goal. For the first time, the platform calls for an annual audit of the Federal Reserve.

    NO WOMEN IN COMBAT. The platform condemns “social experimentation” in the military, which covers everything from the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” to allowing officers to wear their uniforms in gay pride events to letting women serve on the front lines.

    NO STATEHOOD, MORE GUNS FOR WASHINGTON DC. FRC’s Perkins, who recently blamed President Obama and the Southern Poverty Law Center for the shooting at FRC’s Washington headquarters, requested and received a section specifically urging the DC Council to expand gun rights. The same section also opposes DC statehood, which would allow the District to govern itself and put an end to Congressional attempts to impose abortion bans on DC.

    NO NEW TAXES, EXCEPT FOR WAR. The platform calls for a Constitutional amendment requiring a super-majority to approve any tax increase, “with exceptions for only war and national emergencies.” It would also deliberately hobble future Congresses through a cap limiting all government spending to historical average percentage of GDP — “so that future Congresses cannot balance the budget by raising taxes.”

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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2012, 05:40:46 pm »
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Non one cares about party platforms anymore. They mean nothing.

Yay?
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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2012, 05:40:54 pm »
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Why won't the Democrats add a plank supporting auditing the Fed? Or have they?

The Federal Reserve is controlled by Wall Street.
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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2012, 05:42:48 pm »
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In case anyone's curious, here is their platform committee website
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« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2012, 07:22:46 pm »
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Why won't the Democrats add a plank supporting auditing the Fed? Or have they?

The Federal Reserve is controlled by Wall Street.
Dennis Kucinich and Bernie Sanders favor an audit.
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« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2012, 07:25:26 pm »
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I think the Todd Akin stuff basically ruined the Republicans' chances, to be honest with you.

That goes against literally all the data that shows absolutely no reaction from anywhere to Akin's comments (even in Missouri, PPP, which tilts a little Democratic, still shows Akin leading).
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« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2012, 07:27:33 pm »
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That goes against literally all the data that shows absolutely no reaction from anywhere to Akin's comments (even in Missouri, PPP, which tilts a little Democratic, still shows Akin leading).

The newest polls are from before hardly anyone found out about Akin's goofiness.
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« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2012, 07:36:38 pm »
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That goes against literally all the data that shows absolutely no reaction from anywhere to Akin's comments (even in Missouri, PPP, which tilts a little Democratic, still shows Akin leading).

The newest polls are from before hardly anyone found out about Akin's goofiness.

Akin's goofiness was Sunday; today is Wednesday. Four days. So nobody heard about it right after it happened, but now they're about to?
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« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2012, 07:39:41 pm »
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Akin's goofiness was Sunday; today is Wednesday. Four days. So nobody heard about it right after it happened, but now they're about to?

Half the people haven't heard about it yet, because The Media hasn't covered it that much.
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« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2012, 08:05:22 pm »
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Akin's goofiness was Sunday; today is Wednesday. Four days. So nobody heard about it right after it happened, but now they're about to?

Half the people haven't heard about it yet, because The Media hasn't covered it that much.

...because top story on the non-Missouri LOCAL news and network nightly newscasts isn't media coverage enough.
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« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2012, 08:10:42 pm »
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...because top story on the non-Missouri LOCAL news and network nightly newscasts isn't media coverage enough.

The Media is still making a stink over "You didn't build that."
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« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2012, 08:12:38 pm »
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Akin's goofiness was Sunday; today is Wednesday. Four days. So nobody heard about it right after it happened, but now they're about to?

Half the people haven't heard about it yet, because The Media hasn't covered it that much.

Not the last time I checked.

When I looked at CNN's website earlier(and yesterday as well) Todd Akin was all over it.
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« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2012, 08:19:24 pm »
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When I looked at CNN's website earlier(and yesterday as well) Todd Akin was all over it.

The Cincinnati Enquirer hasn't covered it yet.
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« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2012, 08:20:53 pm »
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When I looked at CNN's website earlier(and yesterday as well) Todd Akin was all over it.

The Cincinnati Enquirer hasn't covered it yet.

That's not in Missouri.
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« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2012, 08:29:52 pm »
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Why are the social issues always at the forefront of every discussion? Not that I disagree with their decisions, but I thought this campaign was going to be about economics.

They aren't. The social issues are in a handful of paragraphs at the end of a long document mostly about the economy. Think Progress, where PR got this from, is a left-wing propaganda site built on twisting everything the GOP says to make it sound stupid and extreme.
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« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2012, 08:44:35 pm »
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Why are the social issues always at the forefront of every discussion? Not that I disagree with their decisions, but I thought this campaign was going to be about economics.

They aren't. The social issues are in a handful of paragraphs at the end of a long document mostly about the economy. Think Progress, where PR got this from, is a left-wing propaganda site built on twisting everything the GOP says to make it sound stupid and extreme.
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« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2012, 08:56:31 pm »
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Why are the social issues always at the forefront of every discussion? Not that I disagree with their decisions, but I thought this campaign was going to be about economics.

They aren't. The social issues are in a handful of paragraphs at the end of a long document mostly about the economy. Think Progress, where PR got this from, is a left-wing propaganda site built on twisting everything the GOP says to make it sound stupid and extreme.

That seems to be the '08 platform.
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« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2012, 09:02:33 pm »
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Why are the social issues always at the forefront of every discussion? Not that I disagree with their decisions, but I thought this campaign was going to be about economics.

They aren't. The social issues are in a handful of paragraphs at the end of a long document mostly about the economy. Think Progress, where PR got this from, is a left-wing propaganda site built on twisting everything the GOP says to make it sound stupid and extreme.

That seems to be the '08 platform.

Hmm... You're right. It seems that 2012 platform hasn't actually been completed yet, which renders this entire thread sort of stupid.
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« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2012, 09:06:02 pm »
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Why are the social issues always at the forefront of every discussion? Not that I disagree with their decisions, but I thought this campaign was going to be about economics.

They aren't. The social issues are in a handful of paragraphs at the end of a long document mostly about the economy. Think Progress, where PR got this from, is a left-wing propaganda site built on twisting everything the GOP says to make it sound stupid and extreme.

So in other words, the GOP is "stupid and extreme" on social issues, but they don't want anyone to pay attention to their views on social issues.

If you're gonna say things that you know many people are going to take offense to, don't act so butthurt when called on your bigotry (and that's directed at the GOP in general, not you, TJ).
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« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2012, 09:20:34 pm »
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For years the GOP have been letting the nutjobs write this crazy crap into their platform because the establishment of the party had to throw them a bone as they werent stupid enough to actually campaign on it or turn it into legislation. Rance Preibus even was talking about it the other day, dismissing it as just what the 'grassroots' of the party do. Its like saying "dont pay any attention to the platform, we just let a bunch of monkeys type it up"

For years the GOP has been paying lip service to the wingnuts to get their money and votes but havent really been delivering.

The problem is what with gerrymandering openign the door for the tea party to 'primary out' all the RINOS ...these nutjobs are now actually getting into congress. And more recently some are even trying to get into the Senate and one of them is the VP candidate.

So unlike past years, this time people are paying attention to what these monkeys are putting into the platform. They might actually mean it and might actually try to make it happen.
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« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2012, 09:27:15 pm »
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I wish we just ignored social issues. Oh well, a man can dream Sad

Unless of course it's a gay man dreaming of marrying his partner.

Because it's not a political debate without px making an unnecessary non-sequitur attack on someone perfectly decent, just because they disagree with him.

That said, I think I can name maybe one of these I support.
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« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2012, 11:29:03 pm »
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    NO ABORTION IN CASES OF RAPE OR INCEST. The proposal for a “human life amendment” passed without a hitch — and without any exceptions for rape or incest. The committee didn’t stop there; they also adopted language that would ban drugs that end pregnancy after conception, which could potentially include Plan B, the “morning after pill.”

    SALUTE TO MANDATORY ULTRASOUNDS. The GOP officially praises states’ “informed consent” laws that force women to undergo unnecessary procedures, require waiting periods and endure other measures meant to discourage them from getting an abortion. One such law receiving a “salute” was crafted by committee head McDonnell, who passed a notorious mandatory ultrasound requirement after he signed an unsuccessful bill to require an even more invasive transvaginal probe ultrasound during an abortion consultation.

    NO LEGAL RECOGNITION OF SAME-SEX COUPLES. The committee embraced extreme anti-gay language, even rejecting a proposal to endorse civil unions for gay couples after vehement objections from Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council and Romney adviser Jim Bopp, who called it a “counterfeit marriage.” The rejection of civil unions, along with the refusal to include a line affirming the legal equality of same-sex couples prompted the organization GOProud to declare, “Those who have engaged in this public platform fight have provided distraction from important issues and damaged Mitt Romney’s campaign.”

    REPLICATE ARIZONA-STYLE IMMIGRATION LAWS. Kris Kobach, who wrote the now mostly invalidated immigration laws in Arizona and Alabama, pushed for language calling for a border fence, a national E-Verify system to make it harder for undocumented workers to find employment, the end of in-state tuition for illegal immigrants and an end to sanctuary cities. The committee overwhelmingly approved the proposals, as well as a line chastising the Department of Justice to halt the lawsuits against draconian immigration laws in Arizona, Alabama, South Carolina and Utah: “State efforts to reduce illegal immigration must be encouraged, not attacked.”

    AUDIT THE FED. The pet project of Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) to audit the Federal Reserve has now been embraced as an official Republican goal. For the first time, the platform calls for an annual audit of the Federal Reserve.

    NO WOMEN IN COMBAT. The platform condemns “social experimentation” in the military, which covers everything from the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” to allowing officers to wear their uniforms in gay pride events to letting women serve on the front lines.

    NO STATEHOOD, MORE GUNS FOR WASHINGTON DC. FRC’s Perkins, who recently blamed President Obama and the Southern Poverty Law Center for the shooting at FRC’s Washington headquarters, requested and received a section specifically urging the DC Council to expand gun rights. The same section also opposes DC statehood, which would allow the District to govern itself and put an end to Congressional attempts to impose abortion bans on DC.

    NO NEW TAXES, EXCEPT FOR WAR. The platform calls for a Constitutional amendment requiring a super-majority to approve any tax increase, “with exceptions for only war and national emergencies.” It would also deliberately hobble future Congresses through a cap limiting all government spending to historical average percentage of GDP — “so that future Congresses cannot balance the budget by raising taxes.”

There, I fixed it.


Now I'm wondering if there's something seriously wrong with auditing the fed.
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« Reply #48 on: August 23, 2012, 10:24:24 am »
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Akin's goofiness was Sunday; today is Wednesday. Four days. So nobody heard about it right after it happened, but now they're about to?

Half the people haven't heard about it yet, because The Media hasn't covered it that much.

...because top story on the non-Missouri LOCAL news and network nightly newscasts isn't media coverage enough.


...because top story on the non-Missouri LOCAL news and network nightly newscasts isn't media coverage enough.

The Media is still making a stink over "You didn't build that."

How is Akin's goofiness worse than Harry Reid's dirty Lying?

A) The Doctor told me women's bodies can shut down...
B) Some Guy told me Mitt hasn't paid taxes for ten years.

A) comment made in media interview by a candidate
B) comment made by the Senate Majority Leader on the Floor of the Senate of the US.

also, how is the democrat in Minnesota having oral sex with a 17 year old boy at a rest stop a non story?   
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« Reply #49 on: August 23, 2012, 10:29:36 am »
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That's just absurd. They're leaning further and further right, and they're basically asking to lose every swing state at this point.
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