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« on: September 04, 2012, 07:32:24 PM »

This is getting interesting, despite my disagreement over the whole economic setup of the US at this time. Wallace is the man I would've imagined to challenge Garner, although remember that in OTL, another progressive, William E. Borah, ran in the Republican primaries and won the plurality of states as I recall (though the convention chose Landon, if I remember correctly). How will Wallace deal with that? Also, a 1936 map would look quite interesting.
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2012, 08:23:02 PM »

Election day's gonna be interesting. Tongue Go McNary I suppose, though I'd have preferred a successful Cactus Jack.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2012, 05:52:53 PM »

Map?
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2012, 06:12:01 PM »

1936 version...


Though I'd recommend giving Oregon and Maine to McNary, Ohio to Garner (unless the Mid-West as a whole is revolting), and MA to either McNary or Garner.
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2012, 06:33:16 PM »

1936 version...
Though I'd recommend giving Oregon and Maine to McNary, Ohio to Garner (unless the Mid-West as a whole is revolting), and MA to either McNary or Garner.
I figured that being a swing state, Ohio would go for the moderate candidate.  And MA had a large working-class population even then, didn't it?

OH is a big state though, so unless you're a big national presence, (which this timeline's Republicans aren't), it'd be hard to take. It'd be really close to say the least. And MA was only beginning to start voting Democratic (after decades of voting for Republicans since 1856, interrupted only by the 1912 election), and from what I've understood, that was thanks mostly to the Catholic working class and the progressive/activist/intellectual types consolidating under one party (and even then, Republicans could still take MA, see Ike's victories). It'd be split in this election, me thinks. Overall, I see Republicans taking New England and maybe a few Mid-Western states and maybe Oregon. Wallace might take large swaths of the West. I'm thinking that MT, WY, ID, states that today vote heavily Republican, back then might cast their votes for Wallace. But hey, it's your timeline.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2012, 11:20:42 AM »

How did Vandenberg and Taft become Democrats? Even if Republicans were heading off in a progressive direction, they still wouldn't up and switch parties.
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2012, 06:22:33 PM »

Good tl, but awful matchup. Socialist, Liberal, and Dixiecrat. Tongue Willkie or Taft were probably the only reasonable choices.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2012, 05:08:17 PM »

Ah, nevermind my complaint. I'd assumed the GOP nominated Nye. Eh, my new complaint about the GOP nominee would be that he's too inexperienced. But interesting. Wonder how this affects WWII. Was Thomas isolationist?
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2012, 07:11:57 AM »

Ah, nevermind my complaint. I'd assumed the GOP nominated Nye. Eh, my new complaint about the GOP nominee would be that he's too inexperienced. But interesting. Wonder how this affects WWII. Was Thomas isolationist?
He was at first, but when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor he supported the war.  He did oppose the use of the atomic bombs, though.  

So I'm guessing no Lend-Lease or Arsenal of Democracy type programs? (I think Cactus Jack was also an isolationist) Assuming that Thomas doesn't refuse to sell certain metals to the Japanese, there may be no U.S. entry into WWII at all! Tongue

EDIT: Or at least until after Hitler crushes Europe.
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2012, 04:37:48 PM »

Rooting for Truman to win the Republican nomination and take the country to a more sane stance, though of course not quite where I'd want it. Tongue As well, should be good for handling WWII and the aftermath. And I'm guessing since both parties are rivals of the Socialists, there'd be less a chance of Truman allowing anything close to "commie infiltration" of the State department.

As for the Dems, Kennedy makes it interesting and it'd be cool to see him head or get the back end of a ticket. What is Vandenburg's stance on the war?
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2012, 07:39:44 PM »

Link to the primary schedule. Would love to see a primary map. Can't find one for the Dems though. Ourcampaigns used to have them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)_presidential_primaries,_1944
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2012, 09:24:44 PM »

Vandenburg/Kennedy '44!
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2012, 05:20:26 PM »

Rooting for U.S. forces. Wondering if the Dems will take the House in '46 like the Republicans did OTL, especially with the economic slowdown. Victory in WWII might bolster Socialist chances but I have a feeling that 1948 will bring a change in leadership.
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2012, 10:28:41 PM »

Interesting. I'd hate to say "Go Joe", but in the case of this world, there might be some legitimate threat where he's looking. Obviously a government much more likely to embrace the Soviet Union.
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2012, 07:27:55 AM »

Is Alger Hiss in any low level State Department/foreign policy position?
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2012, 07:44:06 PM »

Go Taft!
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2012, 02:31:25 PM »

This is shaping up quite nicely. Will we see the primaries unfold? Great work!
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2012, 07:00:01 PM »

I was meaning to bump this at some point.
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2013, 03:18:12 PM »

It's back! The 1948 election should definitely be interesting.
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