Democrats Boo Moving US Embassy to Jerusalem

[Dereich]

It is depressing how lockstep both parties are on virtually unconditional support for the Israelis over an even handed approach. Its especially depressing to me that my party is more and more entrenching itself with a state so willing to push the limits of acceptable behavior towards outsiders and which constantly embroils us in unnecessary, unpopular Middle Eastern adventures. It would be nice if there was some kind of neutral organization which could inform the American public of what the conflict is really like, because we all know that current public support for Israel is mostly based on the Holocaust and our recent fights with Muslims. The only thing that really makes me positive about the whole thing is that literally the only way for congress to move is in a pro-Palestinian direction, at least to match the 20% or so of the public who prefer the Palestinians. And its unlikely that the public can move much more pro-Israeli, just because their abuses against the Palestinians far outnumber those Palestinians inflict upon Israel, all of which must seep into the news eventually.

[bgwah]

Did I watch the same video as some of the Republicans in this thread?

Any booing was quite clearly in response to the fact that the vote was rigged.

[Lief 🗽]

After the Bill Clinton speech no one is ever going to talk about this again.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Interestingly, this now leaves the Republicans as the party with a platform that is less explicitly supportive of Israel in 2012 than in 2008.  The 2008 GOP platform called for the embassy to be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.  The 2012 GOP platform is silent as to the location of the embassy.  I'm not a the biggest fan of Israel, but long as the embassy is moved to the portion of Jerusalem that is within the 1967 borders, I see no reason not to, provided the Israelis pay the cost of building a new embassy. While de jure Israel only has legal claim to to what is within the Resolution 181 borders, pretty much every party in the region has accepted the 1967 borders as the de minimus Israeli territory if there ever is a peace settlement.  The only ones that don't are the ones who reject peace.

[J. J.]

Having a voice vote on such a contentious issue is stupid, and it seems to me like it was simply a case of Villaraigosa hearing what he wanted to hear.

In all fairness to Villaraigosa, it can be difficult to judge from a voice vote.  A friend of mine serves as a parliamentarian for an association of blind people.  They take voice votes, but respond "aye" for the yeas and the no vote.  Apparently the noes sound louder.

That said, you are suppose to call for a standing vote on something requiring a 2/3 vote.

Still, really, we elect a person President, not a platform.  If they disagree, so what?  It's the president's decision that is important.

After the Bill Clinton speech no one is ever going to talk about this again.

Of course everybody will; it was the second story on NBC.  They shouldn't, but they will.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

What looked bad was holding the vote 3 times to try to get the "right" vote.  They should've just done what the GOP did in terms of adopting the change in the rules and passed it knowing they had the votes.  Holding it 3 times just looked rigged (which it was, but I think they would've had 2/3 votes anyway).

[NY Jew]

anyone want to get this kappo hearing aids
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/05/debbie-wasserman-schultz-platform_n_1859635.html

[Landslide Lyndon]

This thread is so bad it should have stayed at the 2012 Election section.

Krazey and NYJew have really sunk in new lows. Too bad that Stark isn't around anymore. It would've been fun seeing them duking it out in the mud.

[Napoleon]

Did I watch the same video as some of the Republicans in this thread?

Any booing was quite clearly in response to the fact that the vote was rigged.

Yeah it doesn't take a genius to realize that, but it sure takes a moron to think up the thread title.

[Landslide Lyndon]

This thread is so bad it should have stayed at the 2012 Election section.

Krazey and NYJew have really sunk in new lows. Too bad that Stark isn't around anymore. It would've been fun seeing the pigs duking it out in the mud.

majority of your partys delegates in the room just admitted to either being atheists or anti Semites.  50 years ago the almost every single elected democrat would have condemned every single person who vote this way.
the modern day democratic party explains how a evil nut job like Hitler came to power through mostly through democratic means.

though maybe I should drop the Nazi rhetoric would you prefer Soviet rhetoric.

The modern Democratic party advocates better education. So it would be wise for you to support it, judging by your posts.

[Associate Justice PiT]

This thread is so bad it should have stayed at the 2012 Election section.

Krazey and NYJew have really sunk in new lows. Too bad that Stark isn't around anymore. It would've been fun seeing the pigs duking it out in the mud.

majority of your partys delegates in the room just admitted to either being atheists or anti Semites.  50 years ago the almost every single elected democrat would have condemned every single person who vote this way.
the modern day democratic party explains how a evil nut job like Hitler came to power through mostly through democratic means.

though maybe I should drop the Nazi rhetoric would you prefer Soviet rhetoric.

The modern Democratic party advocates better education. So it would be wise for you to support it, judging by your posts.

     But since the Democrats are evidently NAZIS, according to our friend here, wouldn't that then make advocating better education a NAZI position?

[NY Jew]

This thread is so bad it should have stayed at the 2012 Election section.

Krazey and NYJew have really sunk in new lows. Too bad that Stark isn't around anymore. It would've been fun seeing the pigs duking it out in the mud.

majority of your partys delegates in the room just admitted to either being atheists or anti Semites.  50 years ago the almost every single elected democrat would have condemned every single person who vote this way.
the modern day democratic party explains how a evil nut job like Hitler came to power through mostly through democratic means.

though maybe I should drop the Nazi rhetoric would you prefer Soviet rhetoric.

The modern Democratic party advocates better education. So it would be wise for you to support it, judging by your posts.

is this your example of "better education"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK3rTUgoQD4

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

This thread is so bad it should have stayed at the 2012 Election section.

Krazey and NYJew have really sunk in new lows. Too bad that Stark isn't around anymore. It would've been fun seeing the pigs duking it out in the mud.

majority of your partys delegates in the room just admitted to either being atheists or anti Semites.  50 years ago the almost every single elected democrat would have condemned every single person who vote this way.
the modern day democratic party explains how a evil nut job like Hitler came to power through mostly through democratic means.

though maybe I should drop the Nazi rhetoric would you prefer Soviet rhetoric.

LOL, not being loudly declaring that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel doesn't make you an anti-semite. There isn't a single embassy in Jerusalem. Does that make every other country in the world's government anti-semitic?

[Eraserhead]

The Anti-Democratic Party strikes again. Gross.

Putting aside the Jerusalem issue, why does the Democratic Party feel the need to discriminate against atheists? (I suppose we can consider this a rhetorical question. Sigh.)

[J. J.]

This thread is so bad it should have stayed at the 2012 Election section.

Krazey and NYJew have really sunk in new lows. Too bad that Stark isn't around anymore. It would've been fun seeing the pigs duking it out in the mud.

majority of your partys delegates in the room just admitted to either being atheists or anti Semites.  50 years ago the almost every single elected democrat would have condemned every single person who vote this way.
the modern day democratic party explains how a evil nut job like Hitler came to power through mostly through democratic means.

though maybe I should drop the Nazi rhetoric would you prefer Soviet rhetoric.

LOL, not being loudly declaring that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel doesn't make you an anti-semite. There isn't a single embassy in Jerusalem. Does that make every other country in the world's government anti-semitic?

I hate to point this out, but the Palestinians are Semites. 

This entire thing is stupid on so many levels and everyone is still talking about it.

[© tweed]

they may have been booing the process -- it was clear that the fix was in, and Antonio V. felt uncomfortable being in the position he was in.  there was absolutely no way to verify that 2/3 of the people were saying 'yes', and the lady has to walk up and say, essentially, 'just fck it and rip off the band aid, the peons down on the ground will do what they're going to do'...  it was a poorly managed charade.

[© tweed]

After the Bill Clinton speech no one is ever going to talk about this again.

stop being a hack  -- (forgetting MSM for these purposes), the actual left media in this country is going to talk about it.  Democracy Now led off with it.  of course they have brains so it isn't framed as 'booing God', it's framed as being the coup d'etat that it was.

[mondale84]

Another successful coup by the Zionists. Stop complaining NYJEW, you got your people's racist plank in the platform, you should be happy not complaining. If the Democrats were the Nazi party, they would have gotten rid of such filthy pandering long ago - alas, they have not, so shut up.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

any jew who votes for this party is like a jew who votes fro the Nazi party.

This thread is so bad it should have stayed at the 2012 Election section.

Krazey and NYJew have really sunk in new lows. Too bad that Stark isn't around anymore. It would've been fun seeing the pigs duking it out in the mud.

majority of your partys delegates in the room just admitted to either being atheists or anti Semites.  50 years ago the almost every single elected democrat would have condemned every single person who vote this way.
the modern day democratic party explains how a evil nut job like Hitler came to power through mostly through democratic means.

though maybe I should drop the Nazi rhetoric would you prefer Soviet rhetoric.

NY Jew, this has been a long-time problem with your posts, this isn't the first or even the fourth or fifth time you've done something like this and it needs to stop.  The way that you often casually compare anyone you disagree with on any issue even remotely connected to Judaism and/or Israel to "Jews who vote for Nazis", "anti-semites," etc is a disgrace.  It is bad enough when gentiles compare political opponents to the Nazis, but when Jews such as yourself do it, its one of the worst possible insults to the victims of the Holocaust and the many other atrocities that have been committed against the Jewish people throughout our history.  Someone as concerned about the welfare and dignity of the Jewish people as you claim to be would never trivialize the Holocaust and desecrate the memory of its victims the way that you did.  And no, "Soviet rhetoric" is not any better.  The fact that in your mind people who disagree with you on the inclusion of a plank in a party platform are equivalent to a government whose first leader alone killed over 20 million people means that there is something seriously wrong with you.  How about you stop comparing stop comparing people who disagree with you minor and inconsequential political issues to mass murderers.  And if that's too much to manage than just help yourself to a nice glass of shut the **** up!

[danny]

NY Jew, this has been a long-time problem with your posts, this isn't the first or even the fourth or fifth time you've done something like this and it needs to stop.  The way that you often casually compare anyone you disagree with on any issue even remotely connected to Judaism and/or Israel to "Jews who vote for Nazis", "anti-semites," etc is a disgrace.  It is bad enough when gentiles compare political opponents to the Nazis, but when Jews such as yourself do it, its one of the worst possible insults to the victims of the Holocaust and the many other atrocities that have been committed against the Jewish people throughout our history.  Someone as concerned about the welfare and dignity of the Jewish people as you claim to be would never trivialize the Holocaust and desecrate the memory of its victims the way that you did.  And no, "Soviet rhetoric" is not any better.  The fact that in your mind people who disagree with you on the inclusion of a plank in a party platform are equivalent to a government whose first leader alone killed over 20 million people means that there is something seriously wrong with you.  How about you stop comparing stop comparing people who disagree with you minor and inconsequential political issues to mass murderers.  And if that's too much to manage than just help yourself to a nice glass of shut the **** up!

I'll second that, it's disgusting, much more so than anything the democrats did here.

[Sbane]

I am glad there were at least a few people willing to stand up to the Zionists and the religious extremists who want to marginalize atheists.

And being against Zionism (which is harmful to the long term interests of the Jewish people) is not being anti-semitic.

[J. J.]

CNN is still talking about this.

[opebo]

And the majority of Jewish people vote Democrat...boggles my mind.

Because a big part of Jewish culture is about giving back to support the greater good.

Well that and they're well aware that the WASPs don't want them in the country club.

[Cobbler]

This thread is so bad it should have stayed at the 2012 Election section.

Krazey and NYJew have really sunk in new lows. Too bad that Stark isn't around anymore. It would've been fun seeing the pigs duking it out in the mud.

majority of your partys delegates in the room just admitted to either being atheists or anti Semites.  50 years ago the almost every single elected democrat would have condemned every single person who vote this way.
the modern day democratic party explains how a evil nut job like Hitler came to power through mostly through democratic means.

though maybe I should drop the Nazi rhetoric would you prefer Soviet rhetoric.

Is this guy a troll or is he serious?

[Landslide Lyndon]

This thread is so bad it should have stayed at the 2012 Election section.

Krazey and NYJew have really sunk in new lows. Too bad that Stark isn't around anymore. It would've been fun seeing the pigs duking it out in the mud.

majority of your partys delegates in the room just admitted to either being atheists or anti Semites.  50 years ago the almost every single elected democrat would have condemned every single person who vote this way.
the modern day democratic party explains how a evil nut job like Hitler came to power through mostly through democratic means.

though maybe I should drop the Nazi rhetoric would you prefer Soviet rhetoric.

Is this guy a troll or is he serious?

Unfortunately, both.