SENATE BILL: Late-Term Abortion Restriction Act (On the President's Desk)

[Marokai Backbeat]

Aye.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I accept Scott's as friendly, but I don't accept yours, Yankee. Sorry.

What don't you like about Yankee's amendment, out of curiosity?  I think that will improve the way the cash is distributed.

I object to the inclusion of the Department of Internal Affairs, given my opposition to the position of SoIA. I have no problem giving the same work to the GM instead.

Such is illegal as those duties currently reside with the SoIA. Only after, or as part of your repeal bill passing can all these duties be transferred. Since that isn't even a forgone conclusion, such isn't satisfcatory.

I hope that should your bill fail, that your will stop these Grover Norquist style, obstructionist sabotaging of the position. You sure you aren't a Conservative Marokai?

Edit: Just realized the second paragraph made no sense.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye,

but I would appreciate a possible funding source if that is possible.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I am not a conservative, I am not a conservative, I am not a conservative, I am not a conservative...

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Aye.

I just realized something: if we abolish the SoIA position, how many bills that refer to the SoIA will we have to go back and fix?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye.

I just realized something: if we abolish the SoIA position, how many bills that refer to the SoIA will we have to go back and fix?

A certain person doesn't seem to give a damn, he is too busy pretending to be Dick Mourdock.

We just added three more in thel ast month and a half. The Education bill, your bill thing from last month and Seatown's Co-Op bill. So quite a lot.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Aye.

I just realized something: if we abolish the SoIA position, how many bills that refer to the SoIA will we have to go back and fix?

A certain person doesn't seem to give a damn, he is too busy pretending to be Dick Mourdock.

We just added three more in thel ast month and a half. The Education bill, your bill thing from last month and Seatown's Co-Op bill. So quite a lot.

God knows what else.  There's another argument against abolishing the position..

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Abstain

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye.

I just realized something: if we abolish the SoIA position, how many bills that refer to the SoIA will we have to go back and fix?

A certain person doesn't seem to give a damn, he is too busy pretending to be Dick Mourdock.

We just added three more in thel ast month and a half. The Education bill, your bill thing from last month and Seatown's Co-Op bill. So quite a lot.

God knows what else.  There's another argument against abolishing the position..

I think I may have brought it up in the Getting Real Dump about the cabinet thread, but I lose many posts in transmission, so I can never be sure what I posted or not, unless I check.

[Franzl]

Abstain

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Aye

[Sbane]

Aye. This amendment on it's own will prevent more abortions than the current bill would.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We are one vote short by may count. WTF SENATORS?!!!! Are they doing after debate frat parties now? BYOB all way? What about yesterday then? 

[Franzl]

We are one vote short by may count. WTF SENATORS?!!!! Are they doing after debate frat parties now? BYOB all way? What about yesterday then? 

I change my vote to AYE just to get things moving.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on amendment 51:12:

Aye (6): Ben, Franzl, Marokai Blue, NC Yankee, sbane, and Scott
Nay (0):
Abstain (1): Hagrid

Didn't Vote (3): Bacon King, NVTownsend, and Redalgo

The Amendment has passed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Amendment to be considered once Scott's is passed.

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Status: Waiting just long enough for it to click that the previous amendment vote is over.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Status: Senators, the above amendment is now at vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Franzl]

Nay

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Nay

[Redalgo]

Nay. Also, with the passage of the last amendment I no longer support this bill.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

If the funds were completely opt-outable, would you change your mind?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Aye.

[Redalgo]

If the funds were completely opt-outable, would you change your mind?

It is possible yet unlikely. I got to thinking a bit after a brief exchange with Sam awhile back and decided the federal government of Atlasia makes a habit of tackling some issues better left to the individual regions. That's not to imply I am about to go libertarian on ya'll, but I am going to start dragging my heels when I think this highest tier of government is not doing something imperative to fulfilling its core function of upholding the social rights of the people.

In this case, regulating late-term abortions is consistent with that mission of state. The funding in question, in contrast, has a more diffuse yet nonetheless significant cultural impact. Each region ought to generate strategies of their own, with those policies representing both the values and social mores of their respective peoples better than would a one-size-fits-all approach - in effect addressing the issue in a more decentralized, culturally sensitive manner.

Even if a region could opt out, its taxpayers would still have to fund this in the other regions.

[Svensson]

Nay.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye

If the funds were completely opt-outable, would you change your mind?

It is possible yet unlikely. I got to thinking a bit after a brief exchange with Sam awhile back and decided the federal government of Atlasia makes a habit of tackling some issues better left to the individual regions. That's not to imply I am about to go libertarian on ya'll, but I am going to start dragging my heels when I think this highest tier of government is not doing something imperative to fulfilling its core function of upholding the social rights of the people.

In this case, regulating late-term abortions is consistent with that mission of state. The funding in question, in contrast, has a more diffuse yet nonetheless significant cultural impact. Each region ought to generate strategies of their own, with those policies representing both the values and social mores of their respective peoples better than would a one-size-fits-all approach - in effect addressing the issue in a more decentralized, culturally sensitive manner.

Even if a region could opt out, its taxpayers would still have to fund this in the other regions.

If you have any ideas on how to approach that I would be happy to work with you. I just don't like seeing dollar amounts added to bills, with no implementation procedures, standards for receiving funds etc. We can't leave Scott's text in there as is, without adding some kind of procedures to implement it. I don't wnat to see this bill fail, either.