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« on: September 17, 2012, 06:48:55 PM »

One of the best Presidents of all time.
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2012, 06:22:41 AM »

The 2nd most evil President behind Wilson (3rd if you count Cheney as a President). HP.

Giving everyone equality in the eyes of the law is evil? In what universe?
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2012, 11:25:57 AM »

The 2nd most evil President behind Wilson (3rd if you count Cheney as a President). HP.

Giving everyone equality in the eyes of the law is evil? In what universe?

You can be as equal as you want by law, that don't mean sh-t when you're fighting in Vietnam against your will.

Fighting in Vietnam against your will was really little different from fighting in Korea against your will, or the Pacific, or Germany, etc.

Conscription was standard policy for Presidents of the left, right, and center in the 20th Century. Blaming Johnson for using conscription in Vietnam is like blaming Roosevelt for drafting people for the war against Japan, or Truman for the war in Korea.

But if your broader point is that we shouldn't have been in Vietnam, I disagree. We didn't have much of a choice. The war could have been handled better, but fundamentally, we were correct to intervene in Vietnam.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2012, 06:51:52 AM »

But if your broader point is that we shouldn't have been in Vietnam, I disagree. We didn't have much of a choice. The war could have been handled better, but fundamentally, we were correct to intervene in Vietnam.

Do you feel the same way about Iraq? Or is there some lovely, convenient excuse as to why the war started by a Republican is different?

Iraq was not part of a broader conflict, despite what Bush attempted to do it tying it to the War on Terror. Vietnam was clearly a proxy war in the midst of the Cold War, and that's why we had to intervene. South Vietnam was our ally and we couldn't leave it out in the cold. There's a huge, fundamental difference between the War in Vietnam and the Iraq War. The Iraq War had absolutely no purpose and nothing can justify our intervention there. At least in Vietnam we had a justification in stopping the spread of communism, which is, in my opinion, a worthwhile justification.
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