I came here to see how this thread had gone, and I hereby officially state that :
I'm in love with Antonio V.
He defended each and every point I would've, probably better than I would've, and never let go.
Wow, that's flattering. Thank you.
I guess that I invest more time and energy in my arguments when this topic comes up because I find it particularly frustrating to see so many left-wingers take a stance so diametrically opposed to all left-wing values.