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2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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The Senatorial Endorsements are now open. Note that some ballots are not yet final and some minor party candidates may change. If you find any issues, please comment on the
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-Can't support soon-to-be republican Manchin.
-Howell is a troll. "Don't vote for Hatch because he may die!!".
-In Tennessee, I'm not supporting the nazi democrat.
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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18 D, 8 R, 1 I, 6 O. Bipartisanship!
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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September 21, 2012, 09:00:42 pm »
The Democrat in TN sounds awful: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-08-12/democrat-mark-clayton-tennessee-candidate/57012036/1
Endorse the Green!
Is there any other reason to not vote for the D in Utah?
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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September 21, 2012, 09:22:10 pm »
Because the Senate is going to be literally decided by, like, 1 seat or so, I really can't in all honesty vote for a Democrat in 2012; if this was 2004 or 2008, where control wasn't really seriously up for grabs, I might've been able to vote for a Democrat in good conscience that I was voting for the person, not the party (I supported Ted Strickland for Governor in 2010), but you can't really do that in 2012. In cases where the Republican is really awful, I either endorse the Libertarian (Michigan, Missouri, Montana) or clench my teeth and support the Republican (North Dakota, West Virginia). The Democrat who came closest to my support was Jon Tester, in Montana, followed closely by Joe Manchin in WV and Heidi Heitkamp in ND.
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Quote from: Snowstalker on September 21, 2012, 09:52:49 pm
You'd vote for Manchin but not Amy in Minnesota?
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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Quote from: Gass3268 on September 21, 2012, 10:35:09 pm
Quote from: Snowstalker on September 21, 2012, 09:52:49 pm
You'd vote for Manchin but not Amy in Minnesota?
No, I would not vote for the prime sponsor of PIPA.
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Quote from: 31: A New Bushie on April 30, 2013, 01:33:54 pm
I wouldn't touch the Carnival cruise ships with a 10 foot pole. Too many things have gone wrong in the last ~6 months for me to even consider it anymore.
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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Quote from: Snowstalker on September 22, 2012, 10:03:08 am
Quote from: Gass3268 on September 21, 2012, 10:35:09 pm
Quote from: Snowstalker on September 21, 2012, 09:52:49 pm
You'd vote for Manchin but not Amy in Minnesota?
No, I would not vote for the prime sponsor of PIPA.
I'm sure Manchin is no better.
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[Img]http://uselectionatlas.org/ENDORSE/SENATE/2012/ENDMAPSE/se201214867E1.png[Img]
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"I'm not a hawk or a dove. I just don't want my country to be a pigeon."- Sen Henry Jackson
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Here we go:
Quote from: Idaho Blue Dog Dem on September 22, 2012, 01:25:01 pm
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Katy Perry endorsing Miles.
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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Quote from: MilesC56 on September 22, 2012, 01:35:48 pm
Here we go:
Quote from: Idaho Blue Dog Dem on September 22, 2012, 01:25:01 pm
Is that your map or his?
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Quote from: 31: A New Bushie on April 30, 2013, 01:33:54 pm
I wouldn't touch the Carnival cruise ships with a 10 foot pole. Too many things have gone wrong in the last ~6 months for me to even consider it anymore.
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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Quote from: Snowstalker on September 22, 2012, 01:36:31 pm
Quote from: MilesC56 on September 22, 2012, 01:35:48 pm
Here we go:
Quote from: Idaho Blue Dog Dem on September 22, 2012, 01:25:01 pm
Is that your map or his?
mine
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"I'm not a hawk or a dove. I just don't want my country to be a pigeon."- Sen Henry Jackson
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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John MacGovern?
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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Quote from: Green Mountain Hashemite on September 22, 2012, 01:44:38 pm
John MacGovern?
lets say i know he wont win but im not a fan of sanders i don't hate him its just i don't agree with his views
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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Quote from: Idaho Blue Dog Dem on September 22, 2012, 01:41:12 pm
Quote from: Snowstalker on September 22, 2012, 01:36:31 pm
Quote from: MilesC56 on September 22, 2012, 01:35:48 pm
Here we go:
Quote from: Idaho Blue Dog Dem on September 22, 2012, 01:25:01 pm
Is that your map or his?
mine
Mine is similar, but with less Republicans:
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Katy Perry endorsing Miles.
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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September 22, 2012, 05:08:14 pm »
So the ConservaDem's don't want a Democratic majority? I can understand endorsing a Republican in Wyoming, Utah and Tennessee where the Democratic sucks or is a Neo-Nazi, but why in Nevada, Wisconsin or Massachusetts? If I am told that I need to support Blue Dogs in order to gain a Democratic majority, which I will do if I know that a more moderate/liberal candidate couldn't win in a given district, why can't I expect that from my Conservative Democratic friends when there is a liberal in a state where the Dem can win? The only Conservative Democratic that I did not endorse was Joe Manchin and that I because I feel like he could be more moderate/liberal in the Senate and still win, like Jay Rockefeller.
PS. This isn't ment to be mean to anyone. I would just like to have a legitimate debate on the issue with my Conservative Democratic friends. I feel like having that debate is important for the party. =)
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Quote from: Gass3268 on September 22, 2012, 05:08:14 pm
So the ConservaDem's don't want a Democratic majority? I can understand endorsing a Republican in Wyoming, Utah and Tennessee where the Democratic sucks or is a Neo-Nazi, but why in Nevada, Wisconsin or Massachusetts? If I am told that I need to support Blue Dogs in order to gain a Democratic majority, which I will do if I know that a more moderate/liberal candidate couldn't win in a given district, why can't I expect that from my Conservative Democratic friends when there is a liberal in a state where the Dem can win? The only Conservative Democratic that I did not endorse was Joe Manchin and that I because I feel like he could be more moderate/liberal in the Senate and still win, like Jay Rockefeller.
PS. This isn't ment to be mean to anyone. I would just like to have a legitimate debate on the issue with my Conservative Democratic friends. I feel like having that debate is important for the party. =)
Some are blinded by claims of Bipartisanship on the parts of "Moderate Reps". Dean Heller and Cott Brown act moderate, but their voting records beg to differ. Or they could genuinley not like the candidates that the Dems are running. Manchin does try a bit hard to seem "moderate", but he's usually a reliable vote.
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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Arizona: Jeff Flake is among my favorite Republicans and I'd love to see him in the Senate. Good man.
California: I loathe Feinstein. I thus vote for her opponent.
Connecticut: McMahon's a nut.
Delaware: I don't find much objectionable about Carper.
Florida: I really dislike Nelson and find Mack pretty decent on civil liberties.
Hawaii: Eh, Democrat.
Indiana: Mourdeck's a JCLesque figure… Donnelly.
Maine: King, easily.
Maryland: I like independents, and this one has a good shot at second.
Massachusetts: Warren is far-left and Brown is a moderate.
Michigan: Don't like Hoekstra, and don't have an issue with Stabenow.
Minnesota: Bills is Paulesque and Klobuchar is a horrible, horrible person.
Mississippi: Why, Al Gore, of course.
Missouri: McCaskill is meh and Akin is a HP, and Dine's actually got a pretty decent campaign.
Montana: Tester is among my favorite Senate Dems.
Nebraska: I like Kerrey and Fischer seems far-right.
Nevada: Heller, since the Democrat is horrendously corrupt and the Independent is crazy.
New Jersey: Menendez is on my enemies list. Libertarian I guess.
New Mexico: Heinrich is a pretty decent Dem.
New York: Not a fan of the Republican and Gillibrand is another one of my least favorite Senators. Ergo, the Independent.
North Dakota: Berg is meh and Heitkamp is decent.
Ohio: Don't like Mandel and hate Brown. The nonparty.
Pennsylvania: The man who is not Bob Casey.
Rhode Island: The not-Whitehouse.
Tennessee: The independent who bills himself as "none of the above".
Texas: Cruz is a decent R.
Utah: Justice Party!
Vermont: None (which is apparently a Democrat).
Virginia: I like Webb and Webb doesn't like Allen, so Kaine.
Washington: Baumgartner is awesome (he was the guy who told a blogger to go f
uck himself and refused to apologize for it because he meant it).
West Virginia: Don't like Manchin, don't like the R. Mountain, whatever the hell that is.
Wisconsin: I like the I.D.E.A. guy a lot. Decent guy, veteran, all that.
Wyoming: The libertarian (what they call Country).
For the record, there are 9 Senators up for re-election who I think are the worst of the lot and deserve to be thrown out immediately by
anyone else
. They are Brown (OH), Casey, Corker, Feinstein, Gillibrand, Klobuchar, Menendez, Nelson, and Whitehouse.
And Gaas, I'd assume that they find the center-right candidates in MA, NV, and WI closer to them ideologically and more willing to work with them than the far-left candidates in those states. Also,
http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/mostcorrupt/entry/shelley-berkley
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Quote from: IDS Legislator SJoyceFla on September 22, 2012, 05:21:18 pm
And Gaas, I'd assume that they find the center-right candidates in MA, NV, and WI closer to them ideologically and more willing to work with them than the far-left candidates in those states. Also,
http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/mostcorrupt/entry/shelley-berkley
I can understand that, especially about Berkley's issues, but I have been told by that if I support the primary of a Conservative Democrat or not caring if they lose that I don't care about the Democratic majority. Why is it any different the other way? That is my question.
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Re: 2012 Senatorial Endorsements Thread
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Quote from: Gass3268 on September 22, 2012, 06:14:14 pm
Quote from: IDS Legislator SJoyceFla on September 22, 2012, 05:21:18 pm
And Gaas, I'd assume that they find the center-right candidates in MA, NV, and WI closer to them ideologically and more willing to work with them than the far-left candidates in those states. Also,
http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/mostcorrupt/entry/shelley-berkley
I can understand that, especially about Berkley's issues, but I have been told by that if I support the primary of a Conservative Democrat or not caring if the lose that I don't care about the Democratic majority. Why is it any different the other way? That is my question.
I don't know, because I vote for the guy who's ideologically closest to me without regard to majorities.
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Quote from: IDS Legislator SJoyceFla on September 22, 2012, 06:17:50 pm
Quote from: Gass3268 on September 22, 2012, 06:14:14 pm
Quote from: IDS Legislator SJoyceFla on September 22, 2012, 05:21:18 pm
And Gaas, I'd assume that they find the center-right candidates in MA, NV, and WI closer to them ideologically and more willing to work with them than the far-left candidates in those states. Also,
http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/mostcorrupt/entry/shelley-berkley
I can understand that, especially about Berkley's issues, but I have been told by that if I support the primary of a Conservative Democrat or not caring if the lose that I don't care about the Democratic majority. Why is it any different the other way? That is my question.
I don't know, because I vote for the guy who's ideologically closest to me without regard to majorities.
I can understand and respect that.
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