(When) Did Your Political Ideology Diverge From Your Parents'?
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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2012, 10:08:45 AM »

My parents and I are rather similar ideologically speaking, though if I had to guess, my E score would probably be to the right of my mom's.
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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2012, 12:21:05 PM »

When I experienced the humiliation of paid employment.
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« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2012, 07:57:28 AM »

They didn't.
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« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2012, 08:29:13 AM »

I wasn't following politics until about 13 or so. I've always been a left-winger. My parents have always been right-wingers.
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« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2012, 09:31:25 PM »

Wouldn't really say it diverged though I was always a bit more liberal.  If anything over the last few years our ideologies have gotten a bit more in line s they have become a bit more liberal.
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« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2012, 09:44:51 PM »

Hm. My father's side of the family were pretty standard urban leftists/communists. His father was a labor union head and there's been a long history of flirtation with left-communism. But his mom came from former nobility (lol how does that happen) and he seemed to be closer to her, so he ended up falling much closer towards being a populist right-wing/liberal type. My mother's family was more westernized but never really flirted with either of the ideological sides. Generally centrists/elitists. Though she herself is generally apolitical, her more patrician background does sometimes show through.

So yeah, I don't really think they diverged that much. Maybe. Hah.
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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2012, 09:47:54 PM »


Whatever happened to voting for Romney? I missed that tumour in the update thread.

Romney has said a few things in the past couple months to turn me off.  I'm afraid of him repealing Obamacare and leaving those with pre-existing conditions SOL.  His frequent remarks of how he prefers the wealthy and looks to be the president only of the rich and powerful, leaving us middle-class folk getting the leftovers.  The 47% debachle only reinforced my decisions.  The past couple months have been good for determining where I really stand in this election.  I am moderately conservative socially and economically liberal.  I tend to vote economically more than I do socially or religiously.  As much as I get criticized for my Democratic tendencies (mainly on facebook), there are those (including my mother, dad, and grandmother) who urge me to vote how I believe, not how others think I should vote.  Note, my parents and grandmother are staunch Republicans and would never vote Democratic if their life depended on it.  Yet, they still support my Democratic leanings.  I still probably wouldn't make it known to them how I will vote this time around, because of uncertainties of how I will be received.
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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2012, 09:55:35 PM »

My mother never let me know her political views until I was old enough to understand them, her view is that it's not her job to tell me what to believe in.

My father died when I was young, but I gather he was an old school Labor guy. My mother used be a traditional blue-blood Liberal voter, but over the years has shifted more to the left, primary on social issues.

My grandmother was the one who tried to force her views down my throat, which led me to being a teenage conservative. But then I got older and realised that she's actually a bigot and I needed to re-evaluate.

Long story short, funnily enough, I think I'm closer to my mother's ideology now than ever, but that's more by happenstance than design. We've both evolved ideologically.
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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2012, 08:47:45 AM »

I don't know if it ever diverged, but if it did, it was probably somewhere in elementary school when I became a Republican, in large part after I learned that the Republican Party was founded to end slavery.  Most of my immediate family has been all Democrats or Independents.  My mother and grandmother both voted for Carter over Reagan in 1980.  My mother worked for Dukakis in 1988, but then voted for Bush I in '92 and Dole in '96.  Over the past few years, however, she has taken a hard turn to the left and was the only person that I know of in my immediate family who voted for Obama in 2008 (and will likely do so this time).  My aunt was a far-left Democrat for many years who voted for all Democrats for president from 1984-2000.  After I began voicing my views, however, and with more personal experiences, she has become more conservative and voted for Bush in 2004 and McCain in 2008 (and is voting for Romney this year), so she has supported all Republicans for president from 2004 onward.  Another one of my aunts is a teacher and a liberal Democrat to this day.  She voted for all Democrats for president through 2004 (including Kerry), but dislikes Obama and I believe voted for McCain in 2008.  But she will probably vote for Obama this time, under the premise that he is "better for teachers".  My grandmother likewise has had erratic voting patterns.  Most of my immediate family also backed Gore in 2000.  I am the only person in my house who identifys with a major party (Republican), since my family has mostly been Independent and voted based on the person rather than policy.
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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2012, 12:27:10 PM »

it was probably somewhere in elementary school when I became a Republican, in large part after I learned that the Republican Party was founded to end slavery.

Slavery is the #1 issue in modern-day politics...
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« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2012, 12:31:03 PM »

It's not strictly necessary to discuss politics with someone in order to make your political affiliation very obvious. This is America - there are plenty of cultural and social cues that people can indicate in order to show their affiliation.
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« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2012, 12:38:44 PM »

It's not strictly necessary to discuss politics with someone in order to make your political affiliation very obvious. This is America - there are plenty of cultural and social cues that people can indicate in order to show their affiliation.



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« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2012, 12:39:51 PM »

It never really did, in part because starting in my teenage years, both my parents looked to me for political "guidance." Yes, I was a weird kid - very weird, easily lapping most of you. Tongue
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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2012, 02:22:10 PM »

When I experienced the humiliation of paid employment.

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« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2012, 04:09:16 PM »


Very odd, because I found making my own money - at last! - the most liberating thing that ever happened in my life. I was finally a free man. It suffused me with joy - it really did.
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« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2012, 04:16:01 PM »

My parents are probably somewhat to my left - they always give their first preference vote to whichever socialist independent is running in our constituency - but obviously the main thing I've inherited from them is a hatred of Fianna Fáil, which is kind of interesting given that their parents were all very staunch FF voters.
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« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2012, 09:15:37 AM »

I haven't really deviated from my parents, except I might be more to their right on certain issues. My father was a New Democrat until after Bill Clinton's election, whose presidency before the Gingrich Revolution was fairly left. As the years progressed, my father has gravitated more towards the right with the exception of capital punishment, which he says he struggles with, and gun control.

My mother was more of a moderate conservative when she married my father. She had been a longtime supporter of George H.W. Bush, and voted for him in 1980. She was also attracted to McCain's candidacy in 2000. However, with the advent of the Tea Party, and the apparent antipathy of Establishment Republicans toward SoCons, she has also shifted to the right. However, she doesn't have a problem with the welfare state for those in need, as her father was nearly thrown off the disability rolls during the Reagan years.

I share my parents' social conservative views, but I am probably much more of a free market capitalist than either.
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« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2012, 09:22:59 AM »


Very odd, because I found making my own money - at last! - the most liberating thing that ever happened in my life. I was finally a free man. It suffused me with joy - it really did.

That wasn't the question, Torie......the questions was, hen did my views diverge from my family's.....I became much more fiscally conservative......
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« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2012, 09:24:54 AM »

Nobody in my family has an ideology, obviously, since none of us are politicians. We don't have a list of positions on various issues. My dad doesn't always speak with disapproval regarding Republican economic policy, but that doesn't matter since he does always votes Democratic. I don't ever talk about political opinions with my mom, but she likes Barack Obama and watches Jon Stewart regularly and always votes for the Democrat.

My parents are probably somewhat to my left - they always give their first preference vote to whichever socialist independent is running in our constituency - but obviously the main thing I've inherited from them is a hatred of Fianna Fáil, which is kind of interesting given that their parents were all very staunch FF voters.

Don't they come from an academic background? I feel like that should explain things.
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« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2012, 09:28:01 AM »


Very odd, because I found making my own money - at last! - the most liberating thing that ever happened in my life. I was finally a free man. It suffused me with joy - it really did.

That wasn't the question, Torie......the questions was, hen did my views diverge from my family's.....I became much more fiscally conservative......

I was responding to opebo's favorite meme that work is a synonym for humiliation and degradation. In my case, it was precisely the opposite. I have always enjoyed work, at a record store, delivering the mail for law professors, grading papers, suing people. And making my own money, rather than taking Daddy's (that was humiliating to me), was always job one in my life. Life is beautiful. Smiley
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« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2012, 09:42:27 AM »


Very odd, because I found making my own money - at last! - the most liberating thing that ever happened in my life. I was finally a free man. It suffused me with joy - it really did.

That wasn't the question, Torie......the questions was, hen did my views diverge from my family's.....I became much more fiscally conservative......

I was responding to opebo's favorite meme that work is a synonym for humiliation and degradation. In my case, it was precisely the opposite. I have always enjoyed work, at a record store, delivering the mail for law professors, grading papers, suing people. And making my own money, rather than taking Daddy's (that was humiliating to me), was always job one in my life. Life is beautiful. Smiley

Oh, ok, on that part we agree Smiley
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« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2012, 10:03:57 AM »

My parents are probably somewhat to my left - they always give their first preference vote to whichever socialist independent is running in our constituency - but obviously the main thing I've inherited from them is a hatred of Fianna Fáil, which is kind of interesting given that their parents were all very staunch FF voters.

Don't they come from an academic background? I feel like that should explain things.

They do and it does. Tongue
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« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2012, 10:10:07 AM »

My mother was more of a moderate conservative when she married my father. She had been a longtime supporter of George H.W. Bush, and voted for him in 1980. She was also attracted to McCain's candidacy in 2000. However, with the advent of the Tea Party, and the apparent antipathy of Establishment Republicans toward SoCons, she has also shifted to the right. However, she doesn't have a problem with the welfare state for those in need, as her father was nearly thrown off the disability rolls during the Reagan years.

I share my parents' social conservative views, but I am probably much more of a free market capitalist than either.
This summarizes my political views very well.
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« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2012, 02:06:50 PM »

My parents are probably somewhat to my left - they always give their first preference vote to whichever socialist independent is running in our constituency - but obviously the main thing I've inherited from them is a hatred of Fianna Fáil, which is kind of interesting given that their parents were all very staunch FF voters.

Don't they come from an academic background? I feel like that should explain things.

They do and it does. Tongue

Eh. My mom comes from an academic background. And she'd be far-right by American standards. Now admittedly, that means liberal-leaning from native standards, so...I guess that's not that unique of a divergence.
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« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2012, 09:04:35 PM »

I'm not sure my ideology ever really diverged from my parents any more than my parents' ideologies diverge from each other. My Dad is a fiscal conservative, pro-business type of guy and my Mom is basically a Reagan Democrat. I grew up in a very political household; Dad watched with interest to every word in political discourse. He became politically active in the 80s in the Ronald Reagan era and still fosters fond memories of the man. My Dad has always been a glowing beacon of positivity about America and capitalism. The closest match to him on here would be some sort of cross between Torie and Naso. My Mom has always been far less political and only chimes into political conversations on rare occasion.

I began to form my own ideas when I was in 6-7th grade and became extremely conservative for a while, more or less choosing the conservative side of every major issue. I was probably more conservative on fiscal issues than social ones at the time; I was basically my Dad except further to the right over all.

My Mom going on strike when I was in high school was the main event that brought me to realize "more conservative" was not always synonymous with "better". I didn't have a political crisis by any means, but I slowly started to drift in what would be up and to the left on the PM. When I went to college, this trend was accelerated because of a greater interaction with a large number of poor people in Cleveland so I began to see some value in the social safety net, and me coming to the conclusion that I needed to make my faith a more important part of my life. I realized that I put so much effort into temporal things like school and running and basically none into something I supposedly believe is for eternity. Part of it too was a certain discontent with the college drinking culture I found myself immersed in. I realized things didn't need to be that way and tried hard to change them by setting a good example of how to conduct oneself without consenting to the depraved ways of the world and still standing by my friends with patience and love no matter what they've done. I may have gone off on a bit of a tangent here away from politics specifically, but you can probably see how this has shaped my views to arrive at where they are today.
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