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« on: September 20, 2012, 05:15:45 pm »
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Do not open this if you are easily offended... it is a disgusting picture but a fine point

http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image,29553/
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2012, 02:52:00 pm »
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The usual disclaimer is NSFW. As for the picture, it gets it right, even if rather crudely.
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2012, 08:37:17 pm »
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I do agree with the point they're trying to get across, but I can't help but wonder what kind of a pervert went through the trouble to create that picture.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2012, 02:04:03 pm »
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Ones environs, experiences, and culture as a whole have some influence over how likely one is to react violently to such an image. Religion itself is only one of many facets of culture however, so it far from obvious to me that devotees to Islam are more predisposed to violence reactions than are others. The religious aspects of a culture tend to influence the customs and attitudes folks have in society at large but, at the same time, the non-religious customs and attitudes people have can profoundly change the messages they choose to draw from the tenets of their religion. For instance, I have yet to meet any Christian in the United States who believes in all scriptural claims and adheres without exception to all of those sacred writings' prescriptions in practice. It seems to me that cultures as a whole exert more influence over religious views than vice versa.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 02:11:31 pm »
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It seems to me that cultures as a whole exert more influence over religious views than vice versa.

While I disagree with you I would also point out that even if you are right, religion is just a part of culture.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 03:18:39 pm »
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Ones environs, experiences, and culture as a whole have some influence over how likely one is to react violently to such an image. Religion itself is only one of many facets of culture however, so it far from obvious to me that devotees to Islam are more predisposed to violence reactions than are others. The religious aspects of a culture tend to influence the customs and attitudes folks have in society at large but, at the same time, the non-religious customs and attitudes people have can profoundly change the messages they choose to draw from the tenets of their religion. For instance, I have yet to meet any Christian in the United States who believes in all scriptural claims and adheres without exception to all of those sacred writings' prescriptions in practice. It seems to me that cultures as a whole exert more influence over religious views than vice versa.

Fundamentalist Islamism is a politically engineered movement, not the manifestation of some cultural trait specific to "Muslim culture" (whatever that is even supposed to mean).
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2012, 10:30:30 am »
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Ones environs, experiences, and culture as a whole have some influence over how likely one is to react violently to such an image. Religion itself is only one of many facets of culture however, so it far from obvious to me that devotees to Islam are more predisposed to violence reactions than are others. The religious aspects of a culture tend to influence the customs and attitudes folks have in society at large but, at the same time, the non-religious customs and attitudes people have can profoundly change the messages they choose to draw from the tenets of their religion. For instance, I have yet to meet any Christian in the United States who believes in all scriptural claims and adheres without exception to all of those sacred writings' prescriptions in practice. It seems to me that cultures as a whole exert more influence over religious views than vice versa.

Fundamentalist Islamism is a politically engineered movement, not the manifestation of some cultural trait specific to "Muslim culture" (whatever that is even supposed to mean).

Exactly. The fundamentalist Christians are mostly skeletons now.
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