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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2012, 02:06:57 pm »
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Saw the words "Bishop of Durham" in a Guardian article and my heart soared, until I read more closely and found out it's the new guy that's being rumored to be the frontrunner.....such a shame...
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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2012, 02:09:42 pm »
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Saw the words "Bishop of Durham" in a Guardian article and my heart soared, until I read more closely and found out it's the new guy that's being rumored to be the frontrunner.....such a shame...

You might like Justin Welby, actually. I don't like him much, but I'm also not yet entirely familiar with him.

Obviously he's not nearly as much a heavyweight as his predecessor, though.
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« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2012, 02:13:34 pm »
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Saw the words "Bishop of Durham" in a Guardian article and my heart soared, until I read more closely and found out it's the new guy that's being rumored to be the frontrunner.....such a shame...

You might like Justin Welby, actually. I don't like him much, but I'm also not yet entirely familiar with him.

Obviously he's not nearly as much a heavyweight as his predecessor, though.

Regardless of theological views, I think Wright would have been a fine choice for the job had he not retired. As someone that strongly backed Williams but has a pretty firm foot in the evangelical world, and just as a thoughtful and winsome communicator, I think he could have done a lot of good for the image of the position.
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« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2012, 02:38:58 pm »
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Saw the words "Bishop of Durham" in a Guardian article and my heart soared, until I read more closely and found out it's the new guy that's being rumored to be the frontrunner.....such a shame...

You might like Justin Welby, actually. I don't like him much, but I'm also not yet entirely familiar with him.

Obviously he's not nearly as much a heavyweight as his predecessor, though.

Regardless of theological views, I think Wright would have been a fine choice for the job had he not retired. As someone that strongly backed Williams but has a pretty firm foot in the evangelical world, and just as a thoughtful and winsome communicator, I think he could have done a lot of good for the image of the position.

Also regardless of theological views, I agree with you, although he wouldn't have been my absolute first choice. Then again, very few of these people would.
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« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2012, 07:05:00 pm »
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So the Crown Nominations Commission has met, and one assumes made a decision. Now we play the waiting game.

...ah, the waiting game sucks; let's play Hungry Hungry Hippos.
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« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2012, 09:19:27 pm »
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Saw the words "Bishop of Durham" in a Guardian article and my heart soared, until I read more closely and found out it's the new guy that's being rumored to be the frontrunner.....such a shame...

You might like Justin Welby, actually. I don't like him much, but I'm also not yet entirely familiar with him.

Obviously he's not nearly as much a heavyweight as his predecessor, though.

Williams was too much a heavy weight.  I was very disappointed in his attempts at a "mechanism."
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« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2012, 02:08:03 am »
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Fingers crossed for Sentamu!
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« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2012, 04:50:25 am »
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Fingers crossed for Sentamu!

Nobody in the Church of England likes Sentamu except some of the laity. He's admittedly less bad than some of the other options.
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« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2012, 07:56:32 am »
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Fingers crossed for Sentamu!

I think he'd be my first choice.  I don't expect it.
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« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2012, 12:25:51 pm »
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Seems that no candidate has emerged yet. This one is set to last for quite a while.
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« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2012, 01:20:11 pm »
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Seems that no candidate has emerged yet. This one is set to last for quite a while.

I was given to understand that the CNC had deadlocked between two, which if true is definitely worrying, especially if one of them is ++York (in which case, good on whoever's blocking him!).
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« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2012, 01:41:11 pm »
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How about a rule that we refer to the candidates by whatever they traditional sign themselves as?
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« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2012, 02:45:50 pm »
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I'm in support of that.

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I was given to understand that the CNC had deadlocked between two, which if true is definitely worrying, especially if one of them is +Ebor (in which case, good on whoever's blocking him!).

Sunday Times has it they're down to +Ebor, +Dunelm, and +Norvic. I'd obviously vastly prefer the latter even if only as a caretaker.

The Mail, similarly but with an important difference, seems to have heard that they've realized none of them can stand +Ebor and are deadlocked between +Dunelm and +Norvic...

Mail commenters, meanwhile, are crying out for the not-quite-schismatic former +Roffen of all people, and somebody going by the handle 'Downtrodden Taxpayer' is claiming that +Rowan Cantuar is secretly agnostic. Stay classy. Of the actual real candidates, their favorite is of course the one who writes in the magazine that introduced the world to the Page Three Stunna.
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« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2012, 12:19:49 am »
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According to the Times, +Dunelm seems to have secured the spot for one choice. The deadlock is between +Norvic and +Ebor for the other slot.

Despite the poor optics of his having been an Etonian and an oilman, +Dunelm is probably the best of the conservative options and one of the less bad of all the options, so I'm tentatively optimistic for now.

ETA: More sources are claiming that Welby is the first choice.

This is inane. It's becoming obvious or at least entirely overwhelmingly CW that +Dunelm is going to be +Cantuar (the fact that they seemed able to agree on him speaks volumes even though there does technically have to be a vote as to which of the two eventual names goes first). Apparently some shady bookies have him at 1/10 odds. The rest of this is I think just going to be an ordeal unless something falls through somewhere.
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« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2012, 06:57:06 am »
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And he's been endorsed by Giles Fraser, of course, which means he's got the Marxist vicar vote sown up.
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« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2012, 07:15:10 am »
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And he's been endorsed by Giles Fraser, of course, which means he's got the Marxist vicar vote sown up.

I like Giles. I have a feeling though if he wasn't a vicar and just a layman he'd have left long ago.
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« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2012, 05:41:12 am »
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Increasingly firm 'not +Ebor' consensus, I'm hearing from some of my Episcopalian brethren that they've heard that +Norvic and +Liverpool are back in the offing, maybe +Coventry as well? Huh.
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« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2012, 12:36:29 am »
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This race still seems Sentamu's to lose.
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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2012, 01:51:50 am »
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On what basis do you say that? The people doing this selection are by and large exactly the sort of constituencies in the Church of England that don't like him very much. The specific and in some circles admitted desire to avoid him means that if he somehow ends up at +Cantuar it will be out of perceived lack of any better options and desire to cut losses by doing something vaguely populist.
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« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2012, 12:39:56 pm »
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Thomas Beckett will always be the Archbishop of Canterbury to me.
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« Reply #45 on: October 11, 2012, 04:21:32 pm »
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Thomas Beckett will always be the Archbishop of Canterbury to me.

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« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2012, 11:23:29 am »
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Slightly embarrassed that I spelled his name wrong though.
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« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2012, 12:13:45 pm »
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Slightly embarrassed that I spelled his name wrong though.

'Beckett' I believe was for some time an acceptable spelling.
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« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2012, 12:21:04 am »
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Rumors afoot there may be movement within the next few days. I'll believe it when I see it.
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« Reply #49 on: November 08, 2012, 06:36:53 am »
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BBC has been briefed that it's +Dunelm. It will be formally announced tomorrow, apparently.
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