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« on: September 21, 2012, 04:06:41 pm »
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Napoleon first Hitler?
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2012, 04:08:05 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2012, 04:18:59 pm »
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This is very insulting for Napoleon.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2012, 06:43:51 pm »
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I've seen the argument that Napoleon III can be seen as a proto-fascist (intersection of corporate and political power backed up by strong military, authoritarian rule backed up by plebiscites and demonstrations of popular support, etc.)but I don't really see how even that rather flimsy argument applies to Napoleon III's uncle Napoleon I.
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2012, 07:48:29 pm »
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Reported for personal attack.
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 07:52:30 pm »
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I've seen the argument that Napoleon III can be seen as a proto-fascist (intersection of corporate and political power backed up by strong military, authoritarian rule backed up by plebiscites and demonstrations of popular support, etc.)but I don't really see how even that rather flimsy argument applies to Napoleon III's uncle Napoleon I.

Well, he was clearly the first European to try and conquer Europe.  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2012, 10:16:47 pm »
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It's fun to think of the "failed in invading Britain so invaded Russia instead" parallel, but no.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2012, 11:20:14 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2012, 12:10:07 am »
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Then Romney?
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2012, 05:32:39 pm »
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I've seen the argument that Napoleon III can be seen as a proto-fascist (intersection of corporate and political power backed up by strong military, authoritarian rule backed up by plebiscites and demonstrations of popular support, etc.)but I don't really see how even that rather flimsy argument applies to Napoleon III's uncle Napoleon I.

Well, he was clearly the first European to try and conquer Europe.  Wink

You mean after Caesar, Charles the Great, Charles the Fifth, and a half-dozen others ?
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2012, 05:55:11 pm »
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I've seen the argument that Napoleon III can be seen as a proto-fascist (intersection of corporate and political power backed up by strong military, authoritarian rule backed up by plebiscites and demonstrations of popular support, etc.)but I don't really see how even that rather flimsy argument applies to Napoleon III's uncle Napoleon I.

Well, he was clearly the first European to try and conquer Europe.  Wink

You mean after Caesar, Charles the Great, Charles the Fifth, and a half-dozen others ?

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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2012, 06:22:16 pm »
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It's fun to think of the "failed in invading Britain so invaded Russia instead" parallel, but no.

and a brief period of being friends w Russia plus leaving Europe in a cloud of smoke.  Hitler more genocidal but that had more to do with the passage of time and development of technology of ideas.
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2012, 04:55:36 am »
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It's fun to think of the "failed in invading Britain so invaded Russia instead" parallel, but no.

and a brief period of being friends w Russia plus leaving Europe in a cloud of smoke.  Hitler more genocidal but that had more to do with the passage of time and development of technology of ideas.

Did Napoleon plan a "final solution" regarding any national or ethnic group?
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2012, 05:25:30 am »
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Napoleon gave us the Napoleonic Code, Hitler gave us the Nuremberg Laws. Go figure.
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