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« on: September 23, 2012, 02:17:25 PM »

Inspired by the comments of the Great Reverend Herman Cain. Where would they all be in the polls, with maps?
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2012, 02:46:52 PM »

Probably doing even worse than Romney.
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2012, 02:49:39 PM »

Not sure where they'd be at the current moment, but this is where I think things would shake out on election night.


Obama vs. Huntsman:



Obama vs. Gingrich:



Obama vs. Cain:



Obama vs. Santorum:



Obama vs. Pawlenty:




And a few hypothetical ones:

Obama vs. Daniels:



Obama vs. Christie:



Obama vs. Giuliani:



Obama vs. Palin:

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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2012, 02:51:38 PM »

lol @ Huntsman being the strongest candidate
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 02:59:22 PM »

I'm only doing those that stayed in until at least Iowa, so no Cain or Pawlenty.

Michelle Bachmann

Obama-Biden 402.           53%
Bachmann-West 124.       41%

Rick Perry

Obama-Biden 257.     48
Perry-Rubio 191         42

Newt Gingrich

Obama-Biden.  380.    52
Gingrich-Jindal  124.    43

Ron Paul

Obama-Biden.    414.     53
Paul-Paul.            68.     42

Rick Santorum

Obama-Biden.       308.  49
Santorum-Walker  165.  43

Jon Huntsman

Obama-Biden             212.    46
Huntsman-Martinez    210.    47
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 03:01:48 PM »

Huh, forgot Perry, Bachmann, and Paul.

Can't see Perry or Bachmann doing much better than Gingrich. Paul is a bigger question. He's got a much higher ceiling than any of them, but a lower floor too.
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2012, 03:13:56 PM »

Santorum - Being trounced in the polls, with the only reason he's not at 0% is because of his running mate, Jim DeMint.

Gingrich - Perhaps doing slightly better than Romney, his running mate, Pat Toomey, is doing very well on the campaign trail.

Huntsman - Leading Obama by 3-5% in many polls. His running mate, Charlie Crist, was originally viewed as a horrific choice in the eyes of most Republicans, but they have warmed to him.

Bachmann - Trailing Obama by as many as 8% on average in National Polls. Her running mate, Allen West, continues to be himself. Interpret that as you will.

Perry - Doing only slightly worse than Santorum would have. Opens his mouth far too much for his own good. His running mate, Rob Portman, is as white bread as white bread could be.

Paul - Polls are showing him up by 100% over Obama, as Alex Jones has ransacked the mainstream media and brainwashed every American citizen to support Ron Paul/Gary Johnson for President.

Cain - Leading by 1-2%, but clinging to that lead for dear life. His running mate, Kelly Ayotte, appears to be very fond of Reverend Doctor Cain.
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2012, 03:37:05 PM »

Obama/Biden vs. Santorum/Rubio



Obama/Biden vs. Gingrich/Jindal



Obama/Biden vs. Paul/Napolitano



Obama/Biden vs. Huntsman/Ryan


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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2012, 03:53:20 PM »

Obama V. Santorum



Obama: 53%
Rick Santorum: 44%

Obama v. Gingrich



Obama: 55%
Newt Gingrich: 42%

Obama V. Paul is either
Worst Case

Barack Obama: 58%
Ron Paul: 38%

or
Best Case


Ron Paul: 50%
Barack Obama: 48%

Michelle Bachmann:


Barack Obama: 61%
Michelle Bachmann: 37%

Rick Perry:


Barack Obama: 54%
Rick Perry: 43%

Obama V. Cain:



Herman Cain: 100%
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2012, 03:55:29 PM »

The more I think about it, the more I realize Huntsman may have been the chance we had at reclaiming the White House and reshaping the Republican Party.
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2012, 04:22:34 PM »

The more I think about it, the more I realize Huntsman may have been the chance we had at reclaiming the White House and reshaping the Republican Party.

Le duh. Huntsman would have been great for the Republican Party, conservative enough to rally the base but still with enough moderate positions to lure in moderates and independents.

Even-though I disagree with Huntsman on a number of his positions I do think that he had great potential.
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2012, 05:05:36 PM »

The more I think about it, the more I realize Huntsman may have been the chance we had at reclaiming the White House and reshaping the Republican Party.

Yeah this. Honestly, he'd have the race all but wrapped up by now if he had been the nominee.
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2012, 05:27:42 PM »

Huntsman would also be the only Republican candidate that could've challenged Obama foreign policy-wise.
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2012, 05:35:28 PM »
« Edited: September 23, 2012, 05:38:51 PM by 47% Voter »

Coming off the 2010 victories and the rise of the tea party, the GOP was drunk with their own inevitable win against the Kenyan Socialist and held a race to the right on who could deny the most global warming, build the biggest fence against the invading mexicans, worship the most Jesus, make the most decisions about women's bodies, deny the most healthare to all those freeloaders, bomb the most Iranians, deregulate the most industries, deny gays the most rights they could and demand the most from the poor while showering the most tax breaks upon the rich. If it worked in a bunch of local house races against weak Democrats, it will work on the national stage against the President too right?.

And there was John Huntsman standing alone and scoffed at for suggesting ludicrous notions of bipartisaship, balance, and science. He was considered a joke, an outcast.  

The sad thing is, if the GOP dont beat Obama and dont win the Senate, many will argue that they werent being conservative enough. That they really do need to appeal even more to the angry white guys and if they could just get 90% of the white male vote they can have an electoral majority for ever.
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2012, 05:40:12 PM »

This fantasy that Jon Huntsman would have been leading comfortably is just that, a fantasy. He is and was a terrible politician, with no natural base. He has all the same problems Mitt does, with the exception that he's even worse on the economy.
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2012, 06:19:44 PM »

This fantasy that Jon Huntsman would have been leading comfortably is just that, a fantasy. He is and was a terrible politician, with no natural base. He has all the same problems Mitt does, with the exception that he's even worse on the economy.

This.

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2012, 06:42:23 PM »

This fantasy that Jon Huntsman would have been leading comfortably is just that, a fantasy. He is and was a terrible politician, with no natural base. He has all the same problems Mitt does, with the exception that he's even worse on the economy.

This.

Huntsman is not a duplicitous two-face who runs away from his records, mediocre governor, one-term, would-have-lost, tax evading, spineless opportunist. So no, not this.
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2012, 06:55:46 PM »

This fantasy that Jon Huntsman would have been leading comfortably is just that, a fantasy. He is and was a terrible politician, with no natural base. He has all the same problems Mitt does, with the exception that he's even worse on the economy.

This.

Huntsman is not a duplicitous two-face who runs away from his records, mediocre governor, one-term, would-have-lost, tax evading, spineless opportunist. So no, not this.

His horribly-managed campaign was constantly off-message and extremely alienating to most voters. His problems may not be Mitt's problems, but they're still problems.
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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2012, 07:03:30 PM »

This fantasy that Jon Huntsman would have been leading comfortably is just that, a fantasy. He is and was a terrible politician, with no natural base. He has all the same problems Mitt does, with the exception that he's even worse on the economy.

This.

Huntsman is not a duplicitous two-face who runs away from his records, mediocre governor, one-term, would-have-lost, tax evading, spineless opportunist. So no, not this.

His horribly-managed campaign was constantly off-message and extremely alienating to most voters. His problems may not be Mitt's problems, but they're still problems.

I'm sure he would have been able to refine it for the general, and whilst alienating in the primary context it was well suited for a general election.
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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2012, 07:07:18 PM »

Huntsman would be leading right now.

Santorum would be struggling, but not as hard as Gingrich and Perry.

Paul would mean a third-party conservative gets in the race automatically granting Obama victory.

Bachmann would do worse than Gingrich and Perry.
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2012, 07:19:10 PM »

I'm not certain that Huntsman would be leading but I think it would be better. He is a better general election candidate, and more importantly, he is a better human being.
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2012, 07:23:28 PM »

I think Obama would be leading all of them, including Huntsman... largely because he doesn't strike me as the type to suck up to the hard right... which in mind suggests lagging GOP enthusiasm. Huntsman would probably be doing 'better'.

Gingrich, Santorum and Bachmann would be getting massacred, Santorum's stories sound great to a crowd of the adoring and the 'we-need-to-believe-every-negative-story-about-Obama' people... but he'd alienate moderates and Independents.

Cain isn't even worth bothering about.
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2012, 09:49:23 AM »

Huntsman would have been a great choice for the GOP. He would have effectively told the GOP base to 'put up or shut up' over most social issues which is what the party needs if it is to have any relevance in the future, rather than fight petty personal hatreds of people at a primary level. He could then focus on issues that matter. It would be a closer fight.
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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2012, 12:12:15 PM »

Sarah Palin.



Shades indicate margins, pale under 5%, medium between 5% and 9.9%, and dark over 10%. Her mangling of the English language offends anyone not a native speaker of English, which explains how she loses Texas despite ties to the energy industry (the difference between North Dakota and South Dakota). New Mexico rivals  Vermont as the 'worst' state other than Hawaii for her.

Mike Huckabee.

 

He gets a result in popular vote similar to that of John McCain in 2008. He's more polarizing along regional lines. He does pick off North Carolina but can't grab Indiana.  As a right-wing populist he wins some states by 30% in the South and wins states that just never vote for a Democratic nominee. That just isn't enough. 
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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2012, 04:06:35 PM »

lol @ Huntsman being the strongest candidate

And lol @ Pawlenty
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