IL-17: Schilling leads in Bustos internal

[krazen1211]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/107620193/IL-17-GBA-Strategies-for-Cheri-Bustos-Sept-2012


Schilling 47
Bustos 45

Obama leads by 13. down from 22.



Schilling is in an excellent position to break the vicious gerrymander.

[mondale84]

LOL no

Bustos easily.

[Miles]

Finally its looking like a tossup.

Aesthetically speaking, isn't the old IL-17 more "vicious"-looking than the new one!?

[minionofmidas]

Finally its looking like a tossup.

Aesthetically speaking, isn't the old IL-17 more "vicious"-looking than the new one!?

Oh aye. That was a pointlessly bizarre district.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Finally its looking like a tossup.

Aesthetically speaking, isn't the old IL-17 more "vicious"-looking than the new one!?

Oh aye. That was a pointlessly bizarre district.

It was one of those districts that looked as though those doodling the map just got bored and thought...

[Badger]

Schilling is in an excellent position to break the vicious gerrymander.

Shots!

Besides, Krazen ol' pal, did you forget that you SUPPORT "vicious gerrymandering", you silly shameless hypocrite goose?

[Niemeyerite]

Krazen, will you ever create a thread about a democrat leading?

[Joe Republic]

Krazen, will you ever create a thread about a democrat leading?

You already know the answer to that.  Just be glad that krazey is posting less and less as each passing week looks bleaker for his side, thereby giving him less and less to cheerlead about.  Let him have these sporadic 'victory' threads once in a while.  It's probably good for his health or something.

[krazen1211]

Schilling is in an excellent position to break the vicious gerrymander.

Shots!

Besides, Krazen ol' pal, did you forget that you SUPPORT "vicious gerrymandering", you silly shameless hypocrite goose?

There is nothing silly, shameless, or hypocritical. It's merely an observation based on the facts. I applaud Mr. Schilling's skill in breaking such a strong defense.

[Niemeyerite]

Krazen, will you ever create a thread about a democrat leading?

You already know the answer to that.  Just be glad that krazey is posting less and less as each passing week looks bleaker for his side, thereby giving him less and less to cheerlead about.  Let him have these sporadic 'victory' threads once in a while.  It's probably good for his health or something.

You're right

[Badger]

Schilling is in an excellent position to break the vicious gerrymander.

Shots!

Besides, Krazen ol' pal, did you forget that you SUPPORT "vicious gerrymandering", you silly shameless hypocrite goose?

There is nothing silly, shameless, or hypocritical. It's merely an observation based on the facts. I applaud Mr. Schilling's skill in breaking such a strong defense.

Your linked posts prove otherwise, and that you ONLY oppose "vicious gerrymanders" made by Republicans, but support them 101% when instituted by Republicans. this shows, again, you are not only shamelessly hypocritical, but equally partisan and hackish to boot.

[Vosem]

Seems like Schilling has a lead in the upper single digits...the Illinois gerrymander seems to have only netted Democrats a few seats, in contrast to more effective Republican gerrymanders elsewhere. Though the Democrats did get lucky in California and Arizona, which offsets things...

[Brittain33]

Well, if Schilling hangs on, there are future opportunities to harvest this seat.

[krazen1211]

Schilling is in an excellent position to break the vicious gerrymander.

Shots!

Besides, Krazen ol' pal, did you forget that you SUPPORT "vicious gerrymandering", you silly shameless hypocrite goose?

There is nothing silly, shameless, or hypocritical. It's merely an observation based on the facts. I applaud Mr. Schilling's skill in breaking such a strong defense.

Your linked posts prove otherwise, and that you ONLY oppose "vicious gerrymanders" made by Republicans, but support them 101% when instituted by Republicans. this shows, again, you are not only shamelessly hypocritical, but equally partisan and hackish to boot.

Nope. Illinois Democrats have every authority to gerrymander. The practice is in fact named after a Democrat.

[Badger]

Schilling is in an excellent position to break the vicious gerrymander.

Shots!

Besides, Krazen ol' pal, did you forget that you SUPPORT "vicious gerrymandering", you silly shameless hypocrite goose?

There is nothing silly, shameless, or hypocritical. It's merely an observation based on the facts. I applaud Mr. Schilling's skill in breaking such a strong defense.

Your linked posts prove otherwise, and that you ONLY oppose "vicious gerrymanders" made by Republicans, but support them 101% when instituted by Republicans. this shows, again, you are not only shamelessly hypocritical, but equally partisan and hackish to boot.

Nope. Illinois Democrats have every authority to gerrymander. The practice is in fact named after a Democrat.

Your posts--and mine for that matter--have no relation whatsoever to the legal authority to gerrymander congressional districts, but rather the morality of the practice itself.

Whatever. By your statement above I trust you will cease being a broken record and forgo the trollish insistence on referring to "vicious gerrymander" everytime you link an IL Congressional poll. Thank you.

[Torie]

Speaking of "vicious Gerrymanders," some beyond the looking glass Pubhack managed to come up with the below. Disgusting!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Lawyers = Crooks who know how to get away with it.

[krazen1211]

Bustos is now claiming a 45-44 lead.


http://b.3cdn.net/dccc/c50e8a3a9ac3dd0f1d_3em6bxzev.pdf

[Lief 🗽]

Bustos is now claiming a 45-44 lead.


http://b.3cdn.net/dccc/c50e8a3a9ac3dd0f1d_3em6bxzev.pdf

A gain from being down 47-38 in August, supposedly.

[BigSkyBob]

Seems like Schilling has a lead in the upper single digits...the Illinois gerrymander seems to have only netted Democrats a few seats, in contrast to more effective Republican gerrymanders elsewhere. Though the Democrats did get lucky in California and Arizona, which offsets things...

The Democrats might not even net two seats, let alone a few. Their gerrymander was fairly "effective." What wasn't working for the Democrats is Barack Obama, and their tax increases at the state level. They didn't "cut the lines as fine as possible" in the hopes of winning neighboring districts. They packed it with Democrats and conceded the neighboring district to the Republicans. In race after race you may very well see the Republican win in districts with very high Obama 2008 numbers. How you govern matters. And, if you do a bad enough job, gerrymandering isn't going to save you.

[Miles]

Seems like Schilling has a lead in the upper single digits...the Illinois gerrymander seems to have only netted Democrats a few seats, in contrast to more effective Republican gerrymanders elsewhere. Though the Democrats did get lucky in California and Arizona, which offsets things...

How you govern matters. And, if you do a bad enough job, gerrymandering isn't going to save you.

Which is why the NC Republicans are favored to hold the Assembly and flip the Congressional delegation despite their 16% approval rating.

[muon2]

Seems like Schilling has a lead in the upper single digits...the Illinois gerrymander seems to have only netted Democrats a few seats, in contrast to more effective Republican gerrymanders elsewhere. Though the Democrats did get lucky in California and Arizona, which offsets things...

How you govern matters. And, if you do a bad enough job, gerrymandering isn't going to save you.

Which is why the NC Republicans are favored to hold the Assembly and flip the Congressional delegation despite their 16% approval rating.

In IL one problem was that DC relied on PVI-like numbers to build their Congressional map. The IL legislative map made no such error and stuck to 2006 and 2010 data to avoid any skew from Obama at the top of the ticket in 2008. The legislative gerrymander will be quite successful for the Dems despite horrid approval ratings for their Gov.

[Torie]

Seems like Schilling has a lead in the upper single digits...the Illinois gerrymander seems to have only netted Democrats a few seats, in contrast to more effective Republican gerrymanders elsewhere. Though the Democrats did get lucky in California and Arizona, which offsets things...

How you govern matters. And, if you do a bad enough job, gerrymandering isn't going to save you.

Which is why the NC Republicans are favored to hold the Assembly and flip the Congressional delegation despite their 16% approval rating.

In IL one problem was that DC relied on PVI-like numbers to build their Congressional map. The IL legislative map made no such error and stuck to 2006 and 2010 data to avoid any skew from Obama at the top of the ticket in 2008. The legislative gerrymander will be quite successful for the Dems despite horrid approval ratings for their Gov.

DC was that dumb eh?  It is good they never read my caterwauling about AZ!

[Miles]

Seems like Schilling has a lead in the upper single digits...the Illinois gerrymander seems to have only netted Democrats a few seats, in contrast to more effective Republican gerrymanders elsewhere. Though the Democrats did get lucky in California and Arizona, which offsets things...

The Democrats might not even net two seats, let alone a few. Their gerrymander was fairly "effective." What wasn't working for the Democrats is Barack Obama, and their tax increases at the state level. They didn't "cut the lines as fine as possible" in the hopes of winning neighboring districts. They packed it with Democrats and conceded the neighboring district to the Republicans. In race after race you may very well see the Republican win in districts with very high Obama 2008 numbers. How you govern matters. And, if you do a bad enough job, gerrymandering isn't going to save you.

Hmm...so does that explain why IL Dems netted 4 Congressional seats and gained seats in each Legislative chamber?

Going by your logic, I'd say the IL Dems must be doing a pretty good job of governing...