SENATE BILL: Right Wages for the Right Regions Act (On the President's Desk)
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« Reply #50 on: October 13, 2012, 07:44:07 PM »
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« Reply #51 on: October 14, 2012, 09:05:29 PM »
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« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2012, 02:48:48 AM »
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« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2012, 04:55:37 PM »
Whoa whoa whoa, I was friendly to the apparently misunderstood version of that amendment, not to the amendment we're now voting on. I do not favor restricting employers from counting tips toward the minimum wage; they should be free to do so.

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« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2012, 12:44:15 AM »
I think that as part of giving the regions more authority here, we should let them determine whether to go through this and they can taylor it in such ways as to reduce the burden of implementing such a standard. It would force dramatic shifts on the part of a lot of small businesses and on employers who have been doing this in the other four regions, to then make them shift over night and likely result in a lot of unnecessary job losses. The only way to do that would be to slowly implement it over time.

So I change my vote to nay.

Never took you for the "pro-business" type, Marokai. Tongue
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« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2012, 12:48:58 AM »
Vote on Amendment 51:18:

Aye (3): Ben, Franzl, and Scott
Nay (3): Hagrid, Marokai Blue, and Sbane
Abstain (1): NC Yankee (I was 22 minutes too late. Sad)

Didn't Vote (3): Bacon King, NVTownsend and Redalgo

The amendment is tied and the VP shall break the tie. Another pitifull performance, not for it being contentious, but because the lack of votes prevented potentially concluded without a tie breaker. 5-5 is fine, 3-3 is a disagrace.
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« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2012, 11:41:35 PM »
WTF, I am sure I even PM him directly, too. Angry
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« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2012, 11:42:14 PM »

We are discussing the bill, please hold. Tongue
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« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2012, 11:43:13 PM »
I encourage the VP to vote Nay.
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« Reply #59 on: October 20, 2012, 12:30:21 AM »

oh, well in that case hurry up. Tongue

And next time please post that communication is occuring on the matter behind the scenes. Otherwise, I might get worried this might end up like my request for a VP debate did. Wink
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« Reply #60 on: October 20, 2012, 12:40:00 AM »
As far as I understand the situation, this sort of a change in the way the minimum wage is calculated for these jobs, could negate any kind of easing of the cost of doing business that would hopefully boost hiring by passing this bill, and possibly lead to job loss in several businesses as they are forced to absorb this all at once.

Therefore, I also urge the Labor VP to consider the consequences on these potentialy layed off workers and have that in mind when making his decision.
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« Reply #61 on: October 20, 2012, 12:55:23 PM »
I'm reading the debate so far and thinking about this. There isn't an immediately obvious vote coming to mind. I'm currently inclined towards Nay, not because I like the custom of counting tips toward minimum wage but so as not to put this all into place at once, but I'm not sure quite yet.
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« Reply #62 on: October 21, 2012, 02:28:51 PM »
Aye on the amendment.
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« Reply #63 on: October 21, 2012, 05:17:21 PM »
Sad I'm afraid I can't support this bill as it stands, then. We could try amending it again, I suppose?
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« Reply #64 on: October 21, 2012, 11:56:50 PM »
Maybe. I can't support the bill in its current form either.
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« Reply #65 on: October 22, 2012, 12:19:37 AM »
Same here.


I could type something up, but it would be tomorrow before I could have it ready.
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« Reply #66 on: October 23, 2012, 10:15:18 AM »
I wrote it and then realized it basically reversed the previous amendment. Tongue

Do you guys (looks at Hagrid and Marokai) have any ideas? Would delayed implementation but still at the federal level be enough?
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« Reply #67 on: October 23, 2012, 07:14:03 PM »
I say we actually just try and reverse the previous amendment outright. Why not give it a shot?
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« Reply #68 on: October 24, 2012, 01:05:32 PM »
Yeah, I'd have no problem with that. Assuming the president wouldn't just veto the final bill anyway.
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« Reply #69 on: October 24, 2012, 11:56:24 PM »
« Edited: October 24, 2012, 11:58:58 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »
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« Reply #70 on: October 24, 2012, 11:58:44 PM »
Quote from: HagridOfTheDeep on October 24, 2012, 01:05:32 PM
Yeah, I'd have no problem with that. Assuming the president wouldn't just veto the final bill anyway.
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« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2012, 12:03:12 AM »
Which is preferable to do that?

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« Reply #72 on: October 25, 2012, 12:07:59 AM »
I prefer the first option. Much simpler.
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« Reply #73 on: October 25, 2012, 12:27:47 AM »
I prefer the first option, but I would accept the latter if it would avoid a veto.. Tongue
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« Reply #74 on: October 25, 2012, 12:52:56 AM »
Quote from: Marokai Béliqueux on October 25, 2012, 12:27:47 AM
I prefer the first option, but I would accept the latter if it would avoid a veto.. Tongue

I see no daylight between the two.
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