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« on: September 30, 2012, 11:34:53 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 11:54:56 AM »

I think this is just a confirmation of what we've been saying for a while. But it's nice to see that the Republicans are starting to admit the truth. I'd still say this will eventually go to Flake, unfortunately.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 06:25:59 PM »

I'll collapse from shock if Flake doesn't win by at least 5 points, and more likely 10, "sign of trouble" and a Democratic wave notwithstanding. Jon Kyl won by 10 points in 2006 against a well-funded opponent.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 06:52:22 PM »

I'll collapse from shock if Flake doesn't win by at least 5 points, and more likely 10, "sign of trouble" and a Democratic wave notwithstanding. Jon Kyl won by 10 points in 2006 against a well-funded opponent.

I agree the last 5-8 points will be hard for Carmona to get but I would consider:

* It's an open seat vs an incumbent running for reelection
* Six years of demographic shifts in a state heading towards minority-majority status
* Republicans are likely to do worse with Hispanics (SB1070, Romney, etc)
* Midterm (2006) vs presidential election year (2012) turnout differences
* It's more likely for Carmona to outperform Obama than the reverse and Arizona could trend D compared to 2008
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 07:44:14 PM »

I'll collapse from shock if Flake doesn't win by at least 5 points, and more likely 10, "sign of trouble" and a Democratic wave notwithstanding. Jon Kyl won by 10 points in 2006 against a well-funded opponent.

I agree the last 5-8 points will be hard for Carmona to get but I would consider:

* It's an open seat vs an incumbent running for reelection
* Six years of demographic shifts in a state heading towards minority-majority status
* Republicans are likely to do worse with Hispanics (SB1070, Romney, etc)
* Midterm (2006) vs presidential election year (2012) turnout differences
* It's more likely for Carmona to outperform Obama than the reverse and Arizona could trend D compared to 2008

These are my thoughts exactly. I think Carmona will keep it in the single digits, but he'll have a very tough time getting the last several % points.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2012, 08:38:14 AM »

If there is one state where the Republicans/Tea Party have really overreached, it is Arizona. The GOP's reckoning will soon come
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2012, 03:55:05 PM »

I don't think this is within reach. I wouldn't be surprised if Carmona underperformed Obama.
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