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« on: October 02, 2012, 01:34:56 PM »

Looks good.
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2012, 10:59:45 PM »

"hawd", "yaws"? Is Westman now a Kennedy?
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2012, 10:19:30 PM »

Awesome stuff man.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2013, 09:06:05 PM »

Awesome stuff man. I wonder... Does Mattingly still smoke in the 80's? (tobacco of course. These aren't his Persian War days!) How's the 1988 election shaping up?
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2013, 08:51:57 PM »

It's like if you put my history teacher in charge of things, but made him hate Lincoln and TR. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2013, 09:33:36 AM »

This is pretty sweet. A retrospective history of how the USSR dissolved in the alternate tl. Seeing President Morton reappear made me think about who I would've voted for in past elections, and the usual difference between me now and "me then".

Gonna have to hearken back to this: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119018.msg2927693#msg2927693

Just guessing here...
1948: Governor Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Governor Earl Warren (R-CA)
1952: President Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Vice President Earl Warren (R-CA)
1956: Former Governor Harold Stassen (R-MN)/Congressman Hugh Scott (R-PA)
1960: Senator Charles Percy (R-IL)/Senator Thruston B. Morton (R-KY)
1964: Senator Mike Monroney (D-OK)/Former Governor John Burroughs (D-NM)
1968: Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Congressman George H.W. Bush (R-CT)
1972: Governor Spiro T. Agnew (R-MD)/Former Governor John Rhodes (R-OH)
1976: President Ronald Reagan (D-CA)/Vice President Jimmy Carter (D-GA)
1980: Congressman Phil Crane (C-IL)/Senator Jesse Helms (C-NC)
1984: President Phil Crane (C-IL)/Vice President Ray Hutchinson (C-TX)

Really, any one of these are tossups before the 80's. I like how ideologies and parties are so much more muddled throughout the 50's, 60's, and 70's. I placed my vote for Agnew only due to the fact that you portrayed the election as the rising conservative movement vs. the Establishment New Dealers, though a Kennedy vote in both of his elections would've definitely been considered.

This also brings me to another point: With Republicans out of power for eight years by 1976, what administration was Elliot Richardson part of? Was he pulling a Jon Huntsman-type thing, or had he not served as Ambassador to the UN since the late 60's?
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2013, 09:49:34 AM »

Nevermind on 1972. With ethnic attacks like those used by the GOP in that year, I'd probably have to vote for RFK, as much as abandoning "The Movement" might pain me.
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2013, 12:37:44 PM »

Nevermind on 1972. With ethnic attacks like those used by the GOP in that year, I'd probably have to vote for RFK, as much as abandoning "The Movement" might pain me.

I thought that was the Constitution Party ticket.  I thought the impression I gave was that the GOP bombed that year because Spiro had (much like IRL) some controversy relating to speculation or something like that.

Ah, I see it now. Never mind again I guess. Interesting Ruchardson bio. Not totally sure who I would've voted for.
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2013, 03:58:47 PM »

1988 here we come! Moynihan looks like a strong candidate, and Udall (geographically) could be the perfect foil. Wondering whether the GOP and Conservatives will merge or whether 1988 will be a three (or more) way race.
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2013, 06:35:36 AM »

Better get my O'Sullivan gear together. In all seriousness though, looks like its four Catholics and a Mormon.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2013, 08:14:54 AM »

Hmmm... I'd love to see a Kemp or Paul nomination if that were possible. I find it kind of humorous that the Attorney General is going up against a member of his wife's family for the nomination, Governor Robert Percy.
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2013, 11:01:45 PM »

Read the last page. Very nice work, and in classic Mechaman style. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2013, 11:19:38 PM »

Good updates. Havent' seen ol' Russo in a while. Has he been mentioned before at all?
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2013, 12:26:59 PM »

Rereading your description of Richardson back on page two or so, I'm wondering who his opponents were for the '76 nomination and what that map might look like.
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2013, 08:58:33 PM »

Good stuff! I'd likely favor Wilson, though I'd be amenable to Baker, followed by Richardson. Disraeli is nuts, but he's no Lindsay. Can't wait to see those colors plastered all over the map and how Richardson and Lindsay divide up the Northeast, Wilson and Disraeli share the West, and Wilson and Baker fight for the South (though I have a feeling that Richardson can take the delegate-rich FL with about 30%).
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2013, 11:27:08 AM »

Tom Riddle? Awesome! Cheesy
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« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2013, 03:43:51 PM »

"Constantly plotting to undermine me", haha! The more you write, the more nuanced Westman gets.
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2013, 01:07:21 AM »

"Red Oyster Club"? Heh.
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2014, 04:15:55 PM »

23% sales tax!? God, why can't we do away with the damned things altogether...
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