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« on: October 02, 2012, 01:38:07 pm »
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Mideast Budget 2012

Revenue:

Revenue: Amount
Income Taxes: $37.2 B
Social Insurance Taxes: $24.4 B
"Ad Valorum" Taxes: $110.6 B
Fees: $43.3 B
Regional Lottery: $4.5 B
Contest Winnings Tax: $0.9 B
Business and Other: $84.9 B
TOTAL: $305.8 B


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Total Budget: $304.44 billion
Spending ($232.71 billion)

*(No change) does NOT denote changing in spending levels from RL to this budget. It's really there for the next budget so we can copy this first budget, change the numbers, and then off to the side put the positive/negative change since the preceeding budget.

Energy ($5.75  billion)
$3 Billion ...... Loans to be granted to energy companies that have a responsible environmental track record, are seriously attempting to develop clean energy alternatives, push for energy efficiency and/or have an approved plan to do so.
$1 Billion  ...... Fund for alternative energy
$1 Billion  ...... Updating the Mideast's current energy infrastructure
$0.5 Billion  ...... Refitting all government buildings to run on clean energy
$0.25 Billion  ...... Refitting all government vehicles (cars, planes, etc.) to run on clean energy)

Natural resources and environment ($5.21 billion)
$2.61 billion ...... Water resources (No Change)
$0.57 billion ...... Conservation and land management (No Change)
$0.42 billion ...... Recreational & Park resources (No Change)
$1.11 billion ...... Pollution control and abatement (No Change)
$0.5 billion ....... Other natural resources (No Change)

Agriculture ($4.04 billion)
$2.95 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance (No Change)
$1.09 billion ...... Agricultural research and services (No Change)

Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($1.95 billion)
$0.34 billion ..... Housing Loan Programs (No Change)
$0.02 billion ..... Deposit insurance (No Change)
$1.36 billion ...... Universal service fund (No Change)
$0.23 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce (No Change)

Transportation ($23.25 billion)
$9.00 billion ..... Highways and highway safety (No Change)
$4.00 billion ...... Mass transit (No Change)
$0.25 billion ...... Railroads (No Change)
$2.05 billion ..... Air Transportation (No Change)
$1.05 billion ...... Water transportation (No Change)
$0.45 billion ...... Other transportation (No Change)
$6.45 billion ..... Non-Highway Roads (No Change)

Community and regional development ($4.39 billion)
$2.50 billion ...... Community development (No Change)
$0.96 billion ...... Area and regional development (No Change)
$0.93 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance (No Change)

Education ($69.32 billion)
$41.32 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education (No Change)
$20.00 billion ..... Higher education (No Change)
$8.00 billion ...... Research and general education (No Change)

Training, labor and unemployment ($9.37 billion)
$4.34 billion ...... Training and employment (No Change)
$0.2 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration (No Change)
$4.83 billion ..... Unemployment compensation (No Change)

Health Spending ($14.08 billion)
$2.23 billion ...... Substance abuse and mental health services (No Change)
$0.70 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism (No Change)
$8.45 billion ..... Health research and training (No Change)
$1.50 billion ...... Food safety and occupational health and safety (No Change)
$0.20 billion ..... Other health care services (No Change)
$1.00 billion ...... Health care fraud (No Change)

Civilian Retirement ($41.50 billion)
$1.0 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance (No Change)
$29.50 billion ..... Mideast employee retirement and disability (No Change)
$11.00 billion ...... Mideast employees' and retired employees' health benefits (No Change)

Aid to Low-Income Families ($25.00 billion)
$6.01 billion ..... Housing assistance (No Change)
$4.33 billion ..... Food stamps (No Change)
$2.3 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) (No Change)
$3.33 billion ..... Family support payments (TANF) (No Change)
$7.01 billion ..... Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) (No Change)
$0.85 billion ..... Child tax credit (No Change)
$0.99 billion ....... Child care funds (No Change)
$0.18 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families (No Change)

General Family Support ($5.39 billion)
$1.32 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance (No Change)
$0.33 billion ...... Child support and family support programs (No Change)
$3.74 billion ..... Social and family services (No Change)

Administration of justice ($20.45 billion)
$11.35 billion ..... Regional law enforcement and security (No Change)
$5.21 billion ..... Regional litigation and judicial activities (No Change)
$2.89 billion ...... Regional prison system (No Change)
$1.00 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance (No Change)

General government administration ($3.01 billion)
$0.31 billion ...... Legislative functions (No Change)
$0.10 billion ...... Executive office programs (No Change)
$2.05 billion ....... Fiscal operations (No Change)
$0.55 billion ...... Other general government (No Change)
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Tax Expenditures and Tax Cuts ($71.73 billion)

Corporate Tax Breaks ($7.53 billion)
$3.5 billion ...... R&D Tax Breaks (No Change)
$1.01 billion ...... Energy, Mining and Timber Tax Breaks (No Change)
$2.03 billion ...... Tax Free Bonds (No Change)
$0.99 billion ..... Other Corporate Tax Breaks (No Change)

Personal Business & Investment Benefits ($4.69 billion)
$3.80 billion ..... Tax-Free Bonds (No Change)
$0.56 billion ...... Enterprise & Empowerment Zones and New Markets credit (No Change)
$0.33 billion ....... Other personal investment tax breaks (No Change)

Pension & Retirement Deductions ($26.08 billion)
$10.05 billion ..... Employer-paid Pensions (No Change)
$7.05 billion ..... 401Ks & Keogh plans (No Change)
$1.50 billion ...... IRAs (No Change)
$6.62 billion ..... Group and personal life insurance benefits (No Change)
$0.86 billion ...... Other retirement benefits (No Change)

Health Insurance Tax Benefits ($12.14 billion)
$5.30 billion .... Employer-paid Health Insurance (No Change)
$1.03 billion ...... Self-employed medical insurance premiums (No Change)
$4.70 billion ...... Medical Savings/Health Savings Accounts (No Change)
$1.11 billion ...... Deductibility of medical expenses (No Change)

Housing tax benefits ($8.67 billion)
$2.75 billion ..... Mortgage Interest (No Change)
$1.50 billion ..... Deductibility of property taxes on homes (No Change)
$3.51 billion ..... Exclusion of net imputed rental income on owner-occupied homes (No Change)
$0.91 billion ...... Housing bonds & low-income housing investments (No Change)

Other individual deductions and exemptions ($12.62 billion)
$1.81 billion ..... Charitable contributions (No Change)
$1.91 billion ..... Local taxes (w/o home property) (No Change)
$0.56 billion ...... Workmen's compensation (No Change)
$3.33 billion ..... Education deductions and credits (No Change)
$1.31 billion ..... Child credit (No Change)
$1.38 billion ...... Child care credits and deductions (No Change)
$0.46 billion ......... Deduction for the blind and elderly (No Change)
$0.41 billion ...... Employee parking and transit expenses (No Change)
$0.35 billion ...... Adoption and foster care tax credits (No Change)
$0.80 billion ...... Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC)- revenue loss component (No Change)
$0.30 billion ...... Other fringe benefits (No Change)
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Income Tax Rate:
0%    $0 - $13,000
1%    $13,001 - $40,000
1.5%    $40,001 - $100,000
2.2%    $100,001 - $180,000
2.7%    $180,001 - $300,000
3.25%    $300,001 - $750,000
4%    $750,001 - $2,750,000
5%    $2,750,001- $9,999,999
6.5%   $10,000,000+
1.5%   Employer conributions to pensions

Corporate Tax Rate:
0%    $0 - $50,000
0.5%    $50,001 - $75,000
1%    $75,001 - $125,000
1.5%    $125,001 - $350,000
2%    $350,001 - $1,000,000
2.5%    $1,000,001 - $10,000,000
3.25%    $10,000,001 - $20,000,000
4%    $20,000,001-$70,000,000
5%   $70,000,001+

Sales Tax Rate: 6% (Groceries, prescription drugs exempt)

Excise Taxes:

Gas: 45 cents/gallon (50 cents/gallon for diesel).

Cigarettes: $1.60 per pack.
Other Tobacco Products: 55% Manufactures Price
Distilled Spirits: $2.70 per gallon
Wine: $0.30 per gallon
Beer: $0.30 per gallon
Marijuana: 25% sales tax

Projected Surplus: $1.36 B
Sponsor: Tmthforu94
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2012, 05:16:08 pm »
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The proposed corporate and regional income tax-rates are much too low, at least if we want a balanced budget.
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2012, 06:12:55 pm »
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We could have a flat income tax rate.  That is what many states in America do.  Maybe 5%?  That's about an average tax for Ohio, Michigan, Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, etc.
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We could have a flat income tax rate.  That is what many states in America do.  Maybe 5%?  That's about an average tax for Ohio, Michigan, Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, etc.

The problem with that is that someone making $1,000,000 per-year should be taxed more than a person making $13,000 per-year.  A flat tax would put an unfair burden on the poor.  If one person has eight cars and another has one car, the first person is being asked to sacrifice much less if everyone loses one car. 
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Income taxes are already extremely high from the federal government.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2012, 06:25:19 pm »
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Income taxes are already extremely high from the federal government.

The answer to excessive federal taxation isn't to deprive the regional government of much needed revenue.  If you think the federal rates are too high than you should lobby for them to be lowered at the federal level. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2012, 07:22:54 pm »
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needed revenue.  If you think the federal rates are too high than you should lobby for them to be lowered at the federal level. 


This is a pretty bad argument. To suggest that we should lobby to decrease Federal income taxes just so we can increase regional taxes is ridiculous. Whether it be that the Federal Government is taxing you 99% and the Region is taxing you 1% (or vice versa) you're still paying 100%. The only difference is which level of Government will waste the money.
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I would also be in favor of raising taxes on upper income levels and even adding more brackets. The corporate tax rate could also be raised a little bit, but not too much more then its current rate.
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needed revenue.  If you think the federal rates are too high than you should lobby for them to be lowered at the federal level. 


This is a pretty bad argument. To suggest that we should lobby to decrease Federal income taxes just so we can increase regional taxes is ridiculous. Whether it be that the Federal Government is taxing you 99% and the Region is taxing you 1% (or vice versa) you're still paying 100%. The only difference is which level of Government will waste the money.

I'm not saying that I agree with the argument (I agree that it is a terrible one).  My point was only that it makes little sense to say we should reduce regional income tax rates because federal income tax rates are too high and that to argue that we should do so relies on very weak reasoning.  I was only observing the implication of Governor Tmthforu94's reason for arguing against an increase in the regional income tax rate (unless I somehow misunderstood what he meant, in which case I retract the earlier post).  Regardless, the Mideast regional government ultimately needs more revenue if we are going to pass a balanced budget (or even anything close to that).  Budget shortfalls are a revenue problem first and a spending problem second (and sometimes only a revenue problem).
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I would also be in favor of raising taxes on upper income levels and even adding more brackets. The corporate tax rate could also be raised a little bit, but not too much more then its current rate.

You're right, there should definitely be more brackets.
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We could have a flat income tax rate.  That is what many states in America do.  Maybe 5%?  That's about an average tax for Ohio, Michigan, Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, etc.

The problem with that is that someone making $1,000,000 per-year should be taxed more than a person making $13,000 per-year.  A flat tax would put an unfair burden on the poor.  If one person has eight cars and another has one car, the first person is being asked to sacrifice much less if everyone loses one car. 

Compared to the American system, our regional tax rates on the lower and middle class are actually lower.  Perhaps something like a Missouri system where from income from say $0-10,000, we increase the tax by .5% per $1,000.  Anyone making $10,000 or more would pay a flat rate of 5%.
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2012, 05:23:48 am »
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Let's not complicate the system more by adding more brackets and making the bottom 1% of people pay 1% of their income and the top 1% pay 99%. We should not be looking at income tax increases, nor should we be looking at gasoline tax increases. We cannot seek to make everyday life for middle class Mideasterners more difficult. When gas taxes increase, it does not harm the rich, only the middle class. We must be sane in approaching our budget shortfalls. At this point, we can only cut spending and wait until the economy improves.
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Let's not complicate the system more by adding more brackets and making the bottom 1% of people pay 1% of their income and the top 1% pay 99%. We should not be looking at income tax increases, nor should we be looking at gasoline tax increases. We cannot seek to make everyday life for middle class Mideasterners more difficult. When gas taxes increase, it does not harm the rich, only the middle class. We must be sane in approaching our budget shortfalls. At this point, we can only cut spending and wait until the economy improves.

That's actually not a bad idea. I feel like Mr. X said it best:

Regardless, the Mideast regional government ultimately needs more revenue if we are going to pass a balanced budget (or even anything close to that).  Budget shortfalls are a revenue problem first and a spending problem second (and sometimes only a revenue problem).


I'll vote for a few cuts in spending, but for me its going to have to about 2:1 (added revenue vs. less spending)
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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2012, 09:09:07 am »
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That's actually not a bad idea.

It actually is a bad idea, because even if we as a region tax the top income bracket about 75% of their income whilst the Federal Government is taxing them 25% of their income, then they have no money! Wee! Then we have loads of poor people and the economy isn't flowing and then we have to tax people to pay for a stimulus to try to get things going but incidentally no one has any money left then the Government has all the money and the citizens have no money so the Government is handing out money to all the poors to try and get the economy going and once it does we're gonna take all that money back? That sounds incredibly absurd to me. I can't possibly envision how that might work in any way, shape or form.
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That's actually not a bad idea.

It actually is a bad idea, because even if we as a region tax the top income bracket about 75% of their income whilst the Federal Government is taxing them 25% of their income, then they have no money! Wee! Then we have loads of poor people and the economy isn't flowing and then we have to tax people to pay for a stimulus to try to get things going but incidentally no one has any money left then the Government has all the money and the citizens have no money so the Government is handing out money to all the poors to try and get the economy going and once it does we're gonna take all that money back? That sounds incredibly absurd to me. I can't possibly envision how that might work in any way, shape or form.

I was somewhat joking. Yet I do think we can add a few more tax brackets and double the rates of the top income brackets. 6.5% is way to low!
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I would like to propose that hot groceries be removed from exemption.

I would also like to propose putting the sales tax at an even 6%.
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I would like to propose that hot groceries be removed from exemption.

I would also like to propose putting the sales tax at an even 6%.

I'm alright with raising the sales tax to 6% as long as regional income taxes are also raised on the upper-brackets, but I am definitely opposed to removing hot groceries from the exemption.  Regional Income Taxes for the wealthy must be increased before we consider eliminating important exemptions from the sales tax.  Unsustainably low regional income tax rates for the wealthy and unsustainably low corporate tax rates for big business must not be treated as sacred cows, if for no other reason than we simply can't afford it (or at least not if we are serious about passing an even remotely fair and fiscally responsible budget, let alone a balanced budget). 
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I suggest cutting credits over raising/creating new tax brackets. If you guys are arguing for more tax brackets at the top that is simply ridiculous, we're talking about a handful of people. There's no use creating brackets for some hundred, a hundred, and then ten people in the region.

Federal taxes are burdensome, I strongly recommend you make the Mideast the most competitive region for economic and living purposes by keeping these tax rates.

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A flat tax would put an unfair burden on the poor.  If one person has eight cars and another has one car, the first person is being asked to sacrifice much less if everyone loses one car.

I have no problem with open debate and attacks of the flat or fair taxes, but you need to understand what a flat tax is to participate in a debate. A flat tax does not mean everyone pays the same dollar amount, they only pay the same percentage of their income. The rich gives a car, the poor gives a tire, they both don't give up the same dollar value sacrifice.
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I suggest cutting credits over raising/creating new tax brackets. If you guys are arguing for more tax brackets at the top that is simply ridiculous, we're talking about a handful of people. There's no use creating brackets for some hundred, a hundred, and then ten people in the region.

Federal taxes are burdensome, I strongly recommend you make the Mideast the most competitive region for economic and living purposes by keeping these tax rates.

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A flat tax would put an unfair burden on the poor.  If one person has eight cars and another has one car, the first person is being asked to sacrifice much less if everyone loses one car.

I have no problem with open debate and attacks of the flat or fair taxes, but you need to understand what a flat tax is to participate in a debate. A flat tax does not mean everyone pays the same dollar amount, they only pay the same percentage of their income. The rich gives a car, the poor gives a tire, they both don't give up the same dollar value sacrifice.

I know what a flat tax is.  Even though the dollar amount is different, a person making $1,000,000 per-year who pays a 5% rate can much more easily afford to pay that 5% than a person who makes $20,000 per-year.
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I would be curious, Mr. X, on your opposition to removing hot groceries. That's how most states do it, Indiana for certain. Believe me, I worked in a grocery store for two years. Smiley

I would be open to a balanced effort of raising sales taxes, cutting credits, and cutting overall spending. However, I cannot support increasing our income taxes - Mideasterners already have enough pain on this front from the federal government.
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I am opposed to any sales tax increase.  I think our best way of raising revenue is making a flat income tax.  If we want to add a higher bracket for those making more money, I'd be ok with that within reason; however, we won't eliminate our deficit without raising some taxes on middle class people.  A 0.5% tax on 50-70k is practically unheard of in American states.
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Sales Tax Rate: 6% (Groceries (does not include hot groceries), prescription drugs exempt)

I would like to debate this amendment, bringing the sales tax up to 6%.
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What we need is a more progressive tax system with more tax brackets.

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What we need is a more progressive tax system with more tax brackets.

No, we don't.
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Can we discuss the sales tax for now?
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