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2 US border agents shot for no reason
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Two U.S. Border Patrol agents were shot, one fatally, Tuesday morning in an area in south Arizona known as a major drug-smuggling corridor, authorities said.
Border Patrol identified the slain agent as 30-year-old Nicolas Ivie.
The shooting occurred at the Brian Terry Station near Naco, Ariz., which is just south of Tucson. The station was named after an agent who was killed in the line of duty in December 2010. The area is considered a remote part of the state and sources tell Fox News that the shooting occurred at 1:50 a.m. local time and about 8 miles from the border.
"This shooting is a tragic reminder of the dangers the brave men and women who guard our borders face every day."- Rep. Darrell Issa
The agents who were shot were on patrol with a third agent, who was not harmed, according to George McCubbin, president of the National Border Patrol Council, a union representing about 17,000 border patrol agents. The agents were on horseback at the time of the shooting.
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Re: 2 US border agents shot for no reason
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October 03, 2012, 11:08:20 am »
That's what you get for interfering with free trade.
Not that I think they these casualties of our war on drugs should have been shot, but if we insist on making a war out of a social issue, this is what we're unfortunately going to get from time to time. With rational drug and immigration policies, our borders and those who guard them would be noticeably safer.
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I agree 100%. Even though I'm very much for strong(er) borders, I'm more in favor of ending the prosecution of victimless crimes.
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Quote from: Martha Gellhorn for The Atlantic 1961
The unique misfortune of the Palestinian refugees is that they are a weapon in what seems to be a permanent war...today, in the Middle East, you get a repeated sinking sensation about the Palestinian refugees: they are only a beginning, not an end. Their function is to hang around and be constantly useful as a goad. The ultimate aim is not such humane small potatoes as repatriating refugees.
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Quote from: dead0man on October 03, 2012, 11:38:13 am
I agree 100%. Even though
I'm very much for strong(er) border
s, I'm more in favor of ending the prosecution of victimless crimes.
Not sure how "strong(er) borders" prevents something like this...
Maybe instead of we Americans saying "strong" all the time it's time to use our heads and
think
for a change.
Benghazi was how many weeks ago? And I see we still aren't waiting for the facts to come in before jumping to conclusions.
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Re: 2 US border agents shot for no reason
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Quote from: True Federalist on October 03, 2012, 11:08:20 am
That's what you get for interfering with free trade.
Not that I think they these casualties of our war on drugs should have been shot, but if we insist on making a war out of a social issue, this is what we're unfortunately going to get from time to time. With rational drug and immigration policies, our borders and those who guard them would be noticeably safer.
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2 Arrested in Shooting Death of U.S. Border Patrol Agent
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Authorities have arrested two men in northern Mexico in connection with the shooting death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in Arizona on Tuesday, according to news reports, although their capture remains unconfirmed by U.S. officials.
Agent Nicholas Ivie, 30, was killed and another agent wounded when they stopped to inspect a border sensor on State Highway 80, about five miles north of the Mexican border near Naco, Ariz., according to a statement from the U.S. Border Patrol. The Associated Press reports that two men were arrested in a military maneuver in Agua Prieta, Mexico; a police official in the northern Sonora state confirmed the report, the news agency said.
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The official says the probe is looking into whether
the two men exchanged gunfire Tuesday in the mistaken belief that each was being fired on by a hostile gunman
. The shooting occurred near Bisbee, Ariz.
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Probably better to wait for FBI ballistics tests results vs relying on vague statements by Mexican policemen.
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This is again why the Drug War should be ended, especially on marijuana; I'm fine with cocaine or meth or whatever being kept illegal, but weed being made legal could weaken cartels, the drug trade, and free up a lot of manpower for other crime issues.
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Quote from: PioneerProgress on October 05, 2012, 01:17:29 pm
This is again why the Drug War should be ended, especially on marijuana; I'm fine with cocaine or meth or whatever being kept illegal, but weed being made legal could weaken cartels, the drug trade, and free up a lot of manpower for other crime issues.
Yeah, we (and Mexico) should just copy the Netherlands and legalize soft drugs.
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Re: 2 US border agents shot for no reason
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Quote from: SPC on October 05, 2012, 12:35:02 am
Quote from: True Federalist on October 03, 2012, 11:08:20 am
That's what you get for interfering with free trade.
Not that I think they these casualties of our war on drugs should have been shot, but if we insist on making a war out of a social issue, this is what we're unfortunately going to get from time to time. With rational drug and immigration policies, our borders and those who guard them would be noticeably safer.
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Re: 2 US border agents shot for no reason
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Quote from: Senator Scott on October 05, 2012, 10:43:43 pm
Quote from: SPC on October 05, 2012, 12:35:02 am
Quote from: True Federalist on October 03, 2012, 11:08:20 am
That's what you get for interfering with free trade.
Not that I think they these casualties of our war on drugs should have been shot, but if we insist on making a war out of a social issue, this is what we're unfortunately going to get from time to time. With rational drug and immigration policies, our borders and those who guard them would be noticeably safer.
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Re: 2 US border agents shot for no reason
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As with too many things in politics reality has zero impact on this thread.
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