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« on: October 03, 2012, 01:29:57 am »
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Two U.S. Border Patrol agents were shot, one fatally, Tuesday morning in an area in south Arizona known as a major drug-smuggling corridor, authorities said.

Border Patrol identified the slain agent as 30-year-old Nicolas Ivie.

The shooting occurred at the Brian Terry Station near Naco, Ariz., which is just south of Tucson. The station was named after an agent who was killed in the line of duty in December 2010. The area is considered a remote part of the state and sources tell Fox News that the shooting occurred at 1:50 a.m. local time and about 8 miles from the border.

"This shooting is a tragic reminder of the dangers the brave men and women who guard our borders face every day."- Rep. Darrell Issa

The agents who were shot were on patrol with a third agent, who was not harmed, according to George McCubbin, president of the National Border Patrol Council, a union representing about 17,000 border patrol agents. The agents were on horseback at the time of the shooting.

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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2012, 11:08:20 am »

That's what you get for interfering with free trade.

Not that I think they these casualties of our war on drugs should have been shot, but if we insist on making a war out of a social issue, this is what we're unfortunately going to get from time to time.  With rational drug and immigration policies, our borders and those who guard them would be noticeably safer.
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2012, 11:38:13 am »
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I agree 100%.  Even though I'm very much for strong(er) borders, I'm more in favor of ending the prosecution of victimless crimes.
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Some of the people in both classes share the deep-seated convictions that only their convictions can possibly be the right ones. They both inevitably say the same thing: "We know the Negro and what is best for him."
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2012, 11:44:49 pm »
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I agree 100%.  Even though I'm very much for strong(er) borders, I'm more in favor of ending the prosecution of victimless crimes.

Not sure how "strong(er) borders" prevents something like this...



Maybe instead of we Americans saying "strong" all the time it's time to use our heads and think for a change.

Benghazi was how many weeks ago?  And I see we still aren't waiting for the facts to come in before jumping to conclusions.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2012, 12:35:02 am »
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That's what you get for interfering with free trade.

Not that I think they these casualties of our war on drugs should have been shot, but if we insist on making a war out of a social issue, this is what we're unfortunately going to get from time to time.  With rational drug and immigration policies, our borders and those who guard them would be noticeably safer.
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2012, 01:05:18 am »
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Authorities have arrested two men in northern Mexico in connection with the shooting death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in Arizona on Tuesday, according to news reports, although their capture remains unconfirmed by U.S. officials.

Agent Nicholas Ivie, 30, was killed and another agent wounded when they stopped to inspect a border sensor on State Highway 80, about five miles north of the Mexican border near Naco, Ariz., according to a statement from the U.S. Border Patrol. The Associated Press reports that two men were arrested in a military maneuver in Agua Prieta, Mexico; a police official in the northern Sonora state confirmed the report, the news agency said.

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Some of the people in both classes share the deep-seated convictions that only their convictions can possibly be the right ones. They both inevitably say the same thing: "We know the Negro and what is best for him."
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2012, 10:24:41 am »
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The official says the probe is looking into whether the two men exchanged gunfire Tuesday in the mistaken belief that each was being fired on by a hostile gunman. The shooting occurred near Bisbee, Ariz.

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Probably better to wait for FBI ballistics tests results vs relying on vague statements by Mexican policemen.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2012, 01:17:29 pm »
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This is again why the Drug War should be ended, especially on marijuana; I'm fine with cocaine or meth or whatever being kept illegal, but weed being made legal could weaken cartels, the drug trade, and free up a lot of manpower for other crime issues.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2012, 10:13:17 pm »
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This is again why the Drug War should be ended, especially on marijuana; I'm fine with cocaine or meth or whatever being kept illegal, but weed being made legal could weaken cartels, the drug trade, and free up a lot of manpower for other crime issues.
Yeah, we (and Mexico) should just copy the Netherlands and legalize soft drugs.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2012, 10:43:43 pm »
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That's what you get for interfering with free trade.

Not that I think they these casualties of our war on drugs should have been shot, but if we insist on making a war out of a social issue, this is what we're unfortunately going to get from time to time.  With rational drug and immigration policies, our borders and those who guard them would be noticeably safer.
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2012, 11:02:54 pm »
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That's what you get for interfering with free trade.

Not that I think they these casualties of our war on drugs should have been shot, but if we insist on making a war out of a social issue, this is what we're unfortunately going to get from time to time.  With rational drug and immigration policies, our borders and those who guard them would be noticeably safer.
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2012, 11:24:44 am »
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As with too many things in politics reality has zero impact on this thread.
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