Will Romney ever pull out of Ohio?

[they don't love you like i love you]

Nah, no matter how bad the polls get, the psychological effect and bad coverage wouldn't be worth it.

[Likely Voter]

He would never "pull out" but will he throw in another $20-$30M? I think they may end up treating WI and OH in the same way Obama is treating NC. He is still spending there, but not a lot relative to its EVs.

[Yank2133]

No.

That would be conceding that the election is over.

[Eraserhead]

He might do a stealth pull out in the final week or something like that.

[Tender Branson]

No.

That would be conceding that the election is over.

[GMantis]

This would be a de-facto admission of defeat.

[Landslide Lyndon]

No Republican ever won without Ohio, so the psychological effect of Mittens conceding it would've been devastating.
And let's not forget the downballot races (Michigan 2008 anyone?).

[Reds4]

He shouldn't.. and I don't think he will.

[opebo]

No.  In fact turning it around (along with VA/FL) is his road to victory.

[SPC]

Wouldn't Romney's standing in the party be greater if he put his resources into Arizona, Indiana, Missouri, and Montana so that he could help Republican chances in the Senate? At this point, Romney would need the national winds to be in his direction in order to achieve a victory, and thus debating over which map would lead him to victory is meaningless at the moment.

[Brittain33]

What did it look like when Dole gave up on the presidential race and started helping House and Senate campaigns? How could Romney realistically help senate candidates in states like Nevada and Indiana where he isn't personally popular but the race is potentially close?

[stegosaurus]

You don't publicly pull out of anywhere in a campaign, it's unbecoming and dampens the base. John McCain learned this when he publicly pulled out of Michigan in 2008. It would have only been more hamfisted and self-defeating if he'd pulled out of a state that sensible people would have expected him to be competitive in...like Ohio.

[ajb]

Wouldn't Romney's standing in the party be greater if he put his resources into Arizona, Indiana, Missouri, and Montana so that he could help Republican chances in the Senate? At this point, Romney would need the national winds to be in his direction in order to achieve a victory, and thus debating over which map would lead him to victory is meaningless at the moment.

I think his standing in the party would be higher if he managed to get the national winds blowing in his direction.

[J. J.]

PPP just had OH at +4 Obama.  PPP has a slight Democratic lean, so it is probably at less than 4 point.  I can understand Romney attacking there, and I can understand Obama defending there.

What I can't figure out why Obama has expanded his radio advertising in PA, which is a mystery.  Sure, it is probably tightened, but I'd bet Obama is ahead by twice as much than in OH.

[Brittain33]

PPP just had OH at +4 Obama.  PPP has a slight Democratic lean, so it is probably at less than 4 point.

You have to look at the one PPP poll and disregard the other polls showing a much wider lead for Obama to reach that conclusion.

Corollary to the First Rule:  "Never trust just one poll."

[Eraserhead]

Uh, JJ, you do realize that virtually every other pollster has shown Obama with a bigger lead in Ohio than PPP, right?

[J. J.]

Uh, JJ, you do realize that virtually every other pollster has shown Obama with a bigger lead in Ohio than PPP, right?

I have not trusted a mail poll since 1936. 

I'm not crazy about those Uni polls for Ohio. 

[Filuwaúrdjan]

No.

That would be conceding that the election is over.

Besides, the immediate and obvious precedent (the Gore campaign's one huge error in 2000) is an extremely frustrating one.

[Thomas D]

Uh, JJ, you do realize that virtually every other pollster has shown Obama with a bigger lead in Ohio than PPP, right?

I have not trusted a mail poll since 1936.  

I'm not crazy about those Uni polls for Ohio.  

1936 Liberty Digest reference? God I love this place.

Anyway, Romney shouldn't pull out of Ohio. The path to 270 is to narrow without it.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I'm not crazy about those Uni polls for Ohio. 

Of course not, since they show your candidate losing.

[Lief 🗽]

No.

That would be conceding that the election is over.

Besides, the immediate and obvious precedent (the Gore campaign's one huge error in 2000) is an extremely frustrating one.

What was this?

[Brittain33]

Gore largely wrote off Ohio and then lost it narrowly.

[J. J.]

I'm not crazy about those Uni polls for Ohio. 

Of course not, since they show your candidate losing.

No, they are Uni polls, none of which have a good record in that state; I've said the same things about Uni polls that show Romney ahead.  In this case, of those recent polls, PPP is the only one that is a professional pollster, with a good track record.

[Lief 🗽]

Washington Post and Fox News also have Obama up 8 and 7, but I'm sure you have a reason to discount those polls too.

[J. J.]

Washington Post and Fox News also have Obama up 8 and 7, but I'm sure you have a reason to discount those polls too.

Track record is no where near as good as PPP (and hasn't been good since prior to 1980 in the case of WP); the only thing left leaning on Fox is their polling.  On top of that, they are both older, with Fox being two weeks old.

You were around for the Vorlon's comments on polling, were you not?