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« on: January 30, 2005, 12:50:56 am »
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I began this project to make state CD maps for a 600 member House.  I have Maine and PA finished with maps.  I have a bunch of others that I do not have computer maps for.  If anyone knows where to get good, large county maps, share.



Now to the question, who would run against the following incumbents in 2004.
italics mean they are not running for re-election

District   1-Robert Borski (D)
District   2-Chaka Fattah (D)
District   3-Robert Brady (D)
District   4-Anthony Williams (D)
District   5-Jim Greenwood (GOP)
District   6-Jon Fox (GOP)
District   7-Joe Hoeffel (D)
District   8-Curt Weldon (GOP)
District   9-Joe Pitts (GOP)
District 10-Pat Toomey (GOP)
District 11-
District 12-Paul Kanjorski (D)
District 13-Tim Holden (D)
District 14-Robert Mellow (D)
District 15-Jeffrey Piccola (GOP)
District 16-Todd Platts (GOP)
District 17-Robert Jubelrier (GOP)
District 18-Phil English (GOP)
District 19-John Peterson (GOP)
District 20-Don Sherwood (GOP)
District 21-Melissa Hart (GOP)
District 22-Tim Murphy (GOP)
District 23-Mike Doyle (D)
District 24-John Murtha (D)
District 25-Ron Klink (D)
District 26-Bill Shuster (GOP)
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2005, 01:03:45 am »
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I think we need to bring back Kentucky's 7th district in the far eastern part of the state that the Republicans abolished after the 1990 census. I think that was the one district in Kentucky that had decent representation nonstop since the New Deal, so naturally they abolished it.

Edit: Actually the district around Bowling Green had a good congressman for years, but not anymore.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2005, 01:19:34 am »
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Oh great.  Then there would be long arguments about PA 7.
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2005, 01:38:36 am »
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I think we need to bring back Kentucky's 7th district in the far eastern part of the state that the Republicans abolished after the 1990 census. I think that was the one district in Kentucky that had decent representation nonstop since the New Deal, so naturally they abolished it.

Edit: Actually the district around Bowling Green had a good congressman for years, but not anymore.

Hmmm, wonder why they got rid of it?  Maybe because Kentucky only gets 6 congressman.
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2005, 01:40:42 am »
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Hmmm, wonder why they got rid of it?  Maybe because Kentucky only gets 6 congressman.

Then they should have abolished the 4th district, which hasn't had a decent congresscritter since the '60s.
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2005, 01:43:56 am »
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Who would represent Maine, and why the horrific gerrymander of 4 and 5? 1,2 and 3 are somewhat acceptable. Pennsylvania looks good, and not gerrymandered.
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2005, 01:47:03 am »
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Oh great.  Then there would be long arguments about PA 7.

Sounds good to me!  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2005, 02:01:06 am »
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Oh great.  Then there would be long arguments about PA 7.

Sounds good to me!  Smiley

Actually, maybe not.

Borski would be representing PA 1 (I just noticed) and since I live a view blocks away from him, I'd probably be in that district and focus on that race.
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2005, 02:11:34 am »
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TN, with districts comprising approximately 400,000 people, horribly calculated:



Dist 1: Bill Jenkins (R)
Dist 2: Jimmy Duncan (R)
Dist 3: Tim Burchett (R)
Dist 4: Lincoln Davis (D)
Dist 5: Zach Wamp (R)
Dist 6: Van Hilleary (R)
Dist. 7: Bill Ketron (R)
Dist. 8: Marsha Blackburn (R)
Dist. 9: Rob Briley (D)
Dist. 10: Dianne Black (R)
Dist: 11: John Tanner (D)
Dist. 12: Bob Schutt (R)
Dist. 13: Mark Norris (R)
Dist. 14: Harold Ford Jr. (D)
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2005, 02:14:48 am »
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PA - 11 Dominic Defrancisco or Lowman Henry (both - R).
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2005, 03:53:16 am »
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Dist 1: Bill Jenkins (R)
Dist 2: Jimmy Duncan (R)
Dist 3: Tim Burchett (R)
Dist 4: Lincoln Davis (D)
Dist 5: Zach Wamp (R)
Dist 6: Van Hilleary (R)
Dist. 7: Bill Ketron (R)
Dist. 8: Marsha Blackburn (R)
Dist. 9: Rob Briley (D)
Dist. 10: Dianne Black (R)
Dist: 11: John Tanner (D)
Dist. 12: Bob Schutt (R)
Dist. 13: Mark Norris (R)
Dist. 14: Harold Ford Jr. (D)

"Interesting" that despite there being 5 (or is it 4?) more Congressmen, you've managed to to draw on less Democratic congressman than there is at the moment...
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2005, 04:00:27 am »
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Muhahahaha!

The odd man out (other than Jim Cooper who I think would be replaced by Briley) would be Bart Gordon.  Bart represents an increasingly Republican district but continues to get elected with huge margins based on a strong sense of loyalty and just enough Democrats to keep him afloat. (Not to mention weak GOP candidates since Gill and Blackburn's close losses in the mid 90's) Split up Rutherford county and give Trousdale and other Dem counties to Lincoln Davis and Gordon is out of the picture.

District 10 would be competitive in a Kurita(D) vs. Black(R) matchup though.

Dist 1: Bill Jenkins (R)
Dist 2: Jimmy Duncan (R)
Dist 3: Tim Burchett (R)
Dist 4: Lincoln Davis (D)
Dist 5: Zach Wamp (R)
Dist 6: Van Hilleary (R)
Dist. 7: Bill Ketron (R)
Dist. 8: Marsha Blackburn (R)
Dist. 9: Rob Briley (D)
Dist. 10: Dianne Black (R)
Dist: 11: John Tanner (D)
Dist. 12: Bob Schutt (R)
Dist. 13: Mark Norris (R)
Dist. 14: Harold Ford Jr. (D)

"Interesting" that despite there being 5 (or is it 4?) more Congressmen, you've managed to to draw on less Democratic congressman than there is at the moment...
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2005, 06:36:54 am »
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Muhahahaha!

The odd man out (other than Jim Cooper who I think would be replaced by Briley) would be Bart Gordon.  Bart represents an increasingly Republican district but continues to get elected with huge margins based on a strong sense of loyalty and just enough Democrats to keep him afloat. (Not to mention weak GOP candidates since Gill and Blackburn's close losses in the mid 90's) Split up Rutherford county and give Trousdale and other Dem counties to Lincoln Davis and Gordon is out of the picture.

I'd spotted that... your map is an excellent example of the fact that a map doesn't have to look ugly to be biased towards one side.
Very clever... almost a work of art actually. Congratulations ;-)
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2005, 06:40:42 am »
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I began this project to make state CD maps for a 600 member House.  I have Maine and PA finished with maps.  I have a bunch of others that I do not have computer maps for.  If anyone knows where to get good, large county maps, share.






Can't see the maps :-(
Can you do them in .png or .gif ?
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2005, 07:14:14 am »
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I began this project to make state CD maps for a 600 member House.  I have Maine and PA finished with maps.  I have a bunch of others that I do not have computer maps for.  If anyone knows where to get good, large county maps, share.






Can't see the maps :-(
Can you do them in .png or .gif ?

Neither can I

Also, will you post the # of reps per state
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2005, 11:27:43 am »
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I don't think Jon Fox would have survived until 2004, he only got 44% in a state house race this year.
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2005, 11:30:09 am »
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I don't think Jon Fox would have survived until 2004, he only got 44% in a state house race this year.


Yeah that was pathetic. He's done with politics.
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I don't think Jon Fox would have survived until 2004, he only got 44% in a state house race this year.


Yeah that was pathetic. He's done with politics.

Or has politics done with him? ;-)
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I don't think Jon Fox would have survived until 2004, he only got 44% in a state house race this year.


Yeah that was pathetic. He's done with politics.

Or has politics done with him? ;-)

Yeah...I guess that would be a better way of putting it.
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2005, 01:17:41 pm »
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The maps are updated.  The free image hosting site limits you to a certain amount of downloads.

For both maps I used counties.  Maine turned out almost perfect, as far as people in counties was concerned, though I think I used my wrong Maine map.  They should only have 3 reps, I think.   

htmldon's Tennessee is very good Smiley
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Jake: how many districts for each state?
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2005, 03:24:03 pm »
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Jake: how many districts for each state?

I'll post the list later today.  It is buried in my desk.
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I'll post the list later today.

Yay! :-)

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I know the feeling...
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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2005, 06:35:00 pm »
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I was going to comment about ME, but I see you've caught that.

Did you use the official 2000 numbers? I get the following list for apportionment (469K/seat with 600 seats):

AL 10, AK 1, AZ 11, AR 6, CA 72, CO 9, CT 7, DE 2, FL 34, GA 17, HI 3, ID 3, IL 26, IN 13, IA 6, KS 6, KY 9, LA 10,  ME 3, MD 11, MA 14, MI 21, MN 11, MS 6, MO 12, MT 2, NE 4, NV 4, NH 3, NJ 18, NM 4, NY 40, NC 17, ND 1, OH 24, OK 7, OR 7, PA 26, RI 2, SC 9, SD 2, TN 12, TX 45, UT 5, VT 1, VA 15, WA 13, WV 4, WI 11, WY 1


A real change in the number of seats could in principle be placed into effect for 2010 to be used in the next apportionment.  Using the projection method I discussed with jimrtex recently, and 600 seats, the ideal district would become 519K in 2010.

The new apportionment for 2010 would look like:
AL 9, AK 1, AZ 13, AR 6, CA 75, CO 10, CT 7, DE 2, FL 38, GA 19, HI 3, ID 3, IL 25, IN 12, IA 6, KS 5, KY 8, LA 9,  ME 3, MD 11, MA 13, MI 20, MN 10, MS 6, MO 11, MT 2, NE 3, NV 6, NH 3, NJ 17, NM 4, NY 38, NC 18, ND 1, OH 22, OK 7, OR 7, PA 24, RI 2, SC 9, SD 2, TN 12, TX 48, UT 5, VT 1, VA 15, WA 13, WV 4, WI 11, WY 1
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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2005, 07:16:34 pm »
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I was going to comment about ME, but I see you've caught that.

Did you use the official 2000 numbers? I get the following list for apportionment (469K/seat with 600 seats):

AL 10, AK 1, AZ 11, AR 6, CA 72, CO 9, CT 7, DE 2, FL 34, GA 17, HI 3, ID 3, IL 26, IN 13, IA 6, KS 6, KY 9, LA 10,  ME 3, MD 11, MA 14, MI 21, MN 11, MS 6, MO 12, MT 2, NE 4, NV 4, NH 3, NJ 18, NM 4, NY 40, NC 17, ND 1, OH 24, OK 7, OR 7, PA 26, RI 2, SC 9, SD 2, TN 12, TX 45, UT 5, VT 1, VA 15, WA 13, WV 4, WI 11, WY 1


A real change in the number of seats could in principle be placed into effect for 2010 to be used in the next apportionment.  Using the projection method I discussed with jimrtex recently, and 600 seats, the ideal district would become 519K in 2010.

The new apportionment for 2010 would look like:
AL 9, AK 1, AZ 13, AR 6, CA 75, CO 10, CT 7, DE 2, FL 38, GA 19, HI 3, ID 3, IL 25, IN 12, IA 6, KS 5, KY 8, LA 9,  ME 3, MD 11, MA 13, MI 20, MN 10, MS 6, MO 11, MT 2, NE 3, NV 6, NH 3, NJ 17, NM 4, NY 38, NC 18, ND 1, OH 22, OK 7, OR 7, PA 24, RI 2, SC 9, SD 2, TN 12, TX 48, UT 5, VT 1, VA 15, WA 13, WV 4, WI 11, WY 1

Thank you muon, I couldn't find my list.  I think that Maine was for my 1000 seat project.
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