Unemployment drops to 7.8%, labor force up.

[Politico]

I think we can safely call this good news for Obama.

Key point -

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What debate?

Maybe mediocre jobs reports are good news in Europe, but America expects better.

We need to get consistently on track with 200,000 to 250,000 jobs per month in order to finally get our employment situation back in order.

Romney can do it. Obama can't.

[Politico]

I think we can safely call this good news for Obama.

Key point -

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What debate?

Maybe mediocre jobs reports are good news in Europe, but America expects better.

So employment keeping up with population growth, your mantra for the past few months doesn't matter anymore?

I'm sorry, but cheering over 114,000 jobs being created almost half a decade after the start of the recession is downright pathetic.

This is clearly not good enough. We've had this malaise, it's not an outright recession but it's not a recovery either, for almost half a decade. It needs to change and soon before it's too late.

We have 23 million people out of work.

[Politico]

I think we can safely call this good news for Obama.

Key point -

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What debate?

Maybe mediocre jobs reports are good news in Europe, but America expects better.

Eh, look past the headline number - it's a pretty solid report.

It's a pretty solid report...if you're clinging to desperation.

Cheering over this is like cheering over a "C-" grade. Maybe that cuts it for some of you, but it does not cut it for most of America.

23 million people out of work. Millions more who can only find part-time work but want full-time work. This is unacceptable.

[Politico]

In September 2011, 202,000 jobs were created.
In September 2012, only 114,000 jobs were created.

Things are getting worse, not better.

From 35 million people on food stamps to 47 million people; 23 million people out of work with millions more who can only find part-time work. These figures will not change until we have a change in leadership, and a president who understands the gravity of the situation along with economics (the president is a great speaker, but he is completely clueless on issues involving numbers as evidenced by the first debate).

[Politico]

I think we can safely call this good news for Obama.

Key point -

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What debate?

Maybe mediocre jobs reports are good news in Europe, but America expects better.

Eh, look past the headline number - it's a pretty solid report.

It's a pretty solid report...if you're clinging to desperation.

Talking of desperation....

202,000 jobs were created in September 2011. Things are getting worse, not better.

What were you saying about desperation?

[Politico]

One thing I do know is that the BLS has been cherry-picking the best cities and towns in the country to survey.  For example, the HR director for my organization was contacted during the primary election to report hiring numbers from the city, including 1 day poll workers.  This city had the best unemployment rate in the state (4.3% at the time).  It is my guess that the BLS looked at the ELMI state stats at the time and picked from there to do the survey.  

Secondly, I'd like someone to explain how we saw a decrease in the rate to 7.8, but didn't see corresponding decreases in the other measures of unemployment (like the U6) when labor force participation is up.  They are tied to one another.

Also, how is it that we keep getting revisions for months that pass.  It seems like every report holds new revisions for months that were already revised.  Something is fishy here and seeing as the administration just lied about the Libya attack originating from a YouTube video, I wouldn't be surprised if they're lying about this too.  Man, I really hope that people can see through this for what it is.  I have also never seen democrats so oblivious and uneffected by this admin's blatant lies.  I really think that the reason is that if he wins they have a once in a generation opportunity to instill socialism in the country and that enthuses them meanwhile ...ing the rest of us who don't want it and have no choice, but to live through it once implemented.

One word: Chicago.

"Vote early and vote often" has changed into "fudge early and fudge often."

[Politico]

Right... this is just pathetic...

So, when there were the bad jobs numbers, the right latched onto them as if they're a perfect representation of the horrible Obama economy... when they're good? they're fake...

Just like when there are bad polls for Obama it shows how weak he is etc etc... but when they're good... they MUST BE FAKE!

They're not good, but they're fudged to make them better than otherwise.

For example, over 200,000 jobs were created in September 2011. Only about half of that last month. How is this NOT defined as moving backward, not forward?

Everybody except out-of-touch liberals realize that this country is suffering. All of the spinning and fudging in the world is not going to "change" it, or make people look "forward" to four more years of the last four years.

[Politico]

Right... this is just pathetic...

So, when there were the bad jobs numbers, the right latched onto them as if they're a perfect representation of the horrible Obama economy... when they're good? they're fake...

Just like when there are bad polls for Obama it shows how weak he is etc etc... but when they're good... they MUST BE FAKE!

They're not good, but they're fudged to make them better than otherwise.

For example, over 200,000 jobs were created in September 2011. Only about half of that last month. How is this NOT defined as moving backward, not forward?

Everybody except out-of-touch liberals realize that this country is suffering. All of the spinning and fudging in the world is not going to "change" it, or make people look "forward" to four more years of the last four years.

You'll believe anything, as long as it allows you to blame Obama for anything bad, but no credit for anything good... you do realise you're as guilty of the sins you're accusing pretty much EVERY person who disagrees with you.

I have repeatedly credited Obama for properly delegating foreign policy to Gates, Petreaus and Clinton (Name a single damn thing any staunch Obama supporter on here has given Romney credit for). Unfortunately, with Gates out of the picture the past year and Clinton on her way out (Maybe Petreaus too), we are starting to see the seams come undone, so to speak. Caving into the demands of the Russians is a tough pill to swallow. Borrowing hundreds of billions from China in perpetuity is a HUGE strategic mistake that must end ASAP, too. Furthermore, we need to stand more firm with Israel.

In contrast, Romney will never cave into Russian demands, get us off our dependency upon loanable funds from China, and always stand strong with Israel.

[Politico]

I think we can safely call this good news for Obama.

Key point -

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What debate?

Maybe mediocre jobs reports are good news in Europe, but America expects better.

So employment keeping up with population growth, your mantra for the past few months doesn't matter anymore?

I'm sorry, but cheering over 114,000 jobs being created almost half a decade after the start of the recession is downright pathetic.

This is clearly not good enough. We've had this malaise, it's not an outright recession but it's not a recovery either, for almost half a decade. It needs to change and soon before it's too late.

We have 23 million people out of work.

Politico, I realize Obama's staunchest partisans argue unemployment remains to this day 100% George Bush's problem, but at the same time do you seriously attibute every job lost after the minute he was inaugurated to be Obama's fault?

I have admitted on repeated occasions that Obama inherited a bad situation. However, he has been president and got everything he wanted his first two years. He needs to man up and take responsibility for at least the last year or two.

[Politico]

If only 114,000 jobs were created each and every single month moving "forward," it would take about 202 months (approximately 17 years) just to create 23 million jobs. As we all know, 23 million people are out of work today. Even 50% of new college graduates are unable to find work in this economy (and who the hell wants to say, "do you want fries with that degree?"?). 47 million people are dependent upon food stamps, with a good chunk of these individuals wanting to regain their independence.

If we still had everybody employed or looking for work who was employed or looking for work in January 2009, the unemployment rate would be over 11% today. This is coupled with millions and millions of people who only have part-time work but want full-time work (the official unemployment rate treats somebody who works one hour per week the same as somebody who works 40+ hours per week)

America is burning. The 21s Century Nero is just fiddling around with his teleprompter written by 21st Century Ciceros...

If we do not change course soon, America will burn to the ground...

[Politico]

I think we can safely call this good news for Obama.

Key point -

You must be logged in to read this quote.

What debate?

Maybe mediocre jobs reports are good news in Europe, but America expects better.

So employment keeping up with population growth, your mantra for the past few months doesn't matter anymore?

I'm sorry, but cheering over 114,000 jobs being created almost half a decade after the start of the recession is downright pathetic.

This is clearly not good enough. We've had this malaise, it's not an outright recession but it's not a recovery either, for almost half a decade. It needs to change and soon before it's too late.

We have 23 million people out of work.

Politico, I realize Obama's staunchest partisans argue unemployment remains to this day 100% George Bush's problem, but at the same time do you seriously attibute every job lost after the minute he was inaugurated to be Obama's fault?

I have admitted on repeated occasions that Obama inherited a bad situation. However, he has been president and got everything he wanted his first two years. He needs to man up and take responsibility for at least the last year or two.

He got everything he wanted his first two years? What?

He had stronger majorities of his own party in Congress than any incumbent since Jimmy Carter. Nobody will have such strong majorities again for a long, long time.

Why won't defenders of the president just man up and admit that the president is ultimately responsible for at least the last year or two? Obviously he is not responsible for four years ago, but that was a presidential term ago. He needs to man up and accept responsibility for at least the last year or two.

[Politico]

If we still had everybody employed or looking for work who was employed or looking for work in
America is burning. The 21s Century Nero is just fiddling around with his teleprompter written by 21st Century Ciceros...

If we do not change course soon, America will burn to the ground...

One big difference. Nero started himself the fire. Maybe, he could have done more (I believe that), but come on, I don't think that any modern President had to deal with such a big obstruction levels form the Republicans.

And by the way, Nero's tutor was Seneca, not Cicero.

It does not matter who started the fire when the president is fiddling with a teleprompter instead of solving America's challenges.

The president is simply unable to deal with numbers. I think it's beyond obvious after the debate.


Furthermore, few know who Seneca was. Many know who Cicero was.

[Politico]

That's really nice of you, Torie. You should be proud. Hopefully Ron finds what he's looking for, and sooner rather than later.

[Politico]

There are still "Less people employed nationally than during September of 2011"

More people have either left the workforce or forceably retired from their jobs.  

The forgotten middle class has been forgotten.  

Obama only helps the very poor, and seems to be pushing everyone into the very poor, so they qualify for government services like Obamacare.

You're absolutely right. If millions had not lost hope, had not dropped out of the labor market over the past four years, then unemployment would be about 11% today (and this figure still excludes people who have part-time work but want full-time work).

I hate to say it, but a lot of people (not all, but a lot of folks) in the Obama Administration want America to eventually be a nation filled with people who have a defeatist mentality like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

God bless this poor lady. She is one of the many victims of liberalism. Whether or not liberals realize it, this lady is a symbol representing the end game of most liberals and the policies they hold in their heart. The end game is a Frankenstein Monster that arises due to their seemingly well-intended policies (Like Victor Frankenstein, liberals created the Monster because they had good intentions, but it's the results that matter, not the intentions, as Victor Frankenstein and the Monster himself learned before it was too late). Not all Democrats are bleeding heart liberals, of course, so there is still hope if Obama's liberalism is overwhelmingly rejected on November 6.