Re: Arkansas GOPer: Slavery was a blessing in disguise for blacks

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Ah, Republicans.

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I think this is being taken out of contest.  He wasn't saying that slavery was a good thing, he was saying that the former slaves would be blessed by being granted citizenship after slavery was ended, and that that was a great thing after all the adversity they faced.  Never mind that it was Republicans who fought to end slavery and grant citizenship and suffrage to former slaves, or that it was Democrats who fought against all of those measures.

You are dangerously close to being on my ignore list. Do you have any legitimate points or can you not comprehend any events that have transpired in the last 140 years? Are you from some kind of time void that opened up and spit you into the present? Are you the reincarnation of Thaddeus Stevens?

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Never mind indeed. These people are Republicans today. They wouldn't have been a hundred years ago, of course, but that was a hundred years ago.

I didn't know Bob Byrd was a Republican when he died.

A few of the racists and segregationist, like Strom Thurmond and David Duke, may have become Republicans, but the vast majority of them stayed Democrats for life.  Last time Bob Byrd and Fritz Hollings were in the Senate, they were still Democrats.  George Wallace, Bull Connor, Lester Maddox, George Mahoney, Herman Talmadge, Orval Faubus, William Fulbright, Sam Ervin, Al Gore Sr., and the rest all stayed with the Democratic Party for the rest of their lives.  And most openly white supremacist Republicans, like David Duke, are never accepted by the Party today.

Almost all of those people are also dead. Just as an FYI.

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Never mind that Lincoln was a Republican, or that it was Republicans who fought to end slavery and grant citizenship to blacks...

Oh Gawd.  Every single time with these right wing shills.  Seriously you have to go all the way back to the 1800s to find a Republican platform that is semicivilized?

Never mind indeed. These people are Republicans today. They wouldn't have been a hundred years ago, of course, but that was a hundred years ago.

George Wallace...

Mmmm... George Wallace is dead.  Furthermore how are you so well versed about what was going on in Lincoln's day but have no clue about the 70s?  Just to get you up to speed...

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How on earth do you not know this?  What are they teaching in schools these days?  Or are you a victim of home schooling?

I did know that, but he stayed a Democrat even after that.  Those guys may be dead and gone, but doesn't it still matter that they were Democrats (and never became Republicans)?

No, it doesn't matter that someone decades ago was a Democrat and that his ideology has been completely rejected by the party.

Let's talk about Nixon, and how the GOP is the party of lying thieving scumbags. Doesn't it matter that Nixon was a Republican?

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I think this is being taken out of contest.  He wasn't saying that slavery was a good thing, he was saying that the former slaves would be blessed by being granted citizenship after slavery was ended, and that that was a great thing after all the adversity they faced.  Never mind that it was Republicans who fought to end slavery and grant citizenship and suffrage to former slaves, or that it was Democrats who fought against all of those measures.

You do realize that a huge portion of Democrats were in favor of civil rights by the time the Civil Rights Act was passed and that only a small portion of Dixiecrats were opposed, right?

Yes.  But in terms of percentages, more Republicans supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats.

And most of the people in the Senate at the time are now dead and their ideologies gone. Where's your point?

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Never mind that Lincoln was a Republican, or that it was Republicans who fought to end slavery and grant citizenship to blacks...

Oh Gawd.  Every single time with these right wing shills.  Seriously you have to go all the way back to the 1800s to find a Republican platform that is semicivilized?

Never mind indeed. These people are Republicans today. They wouldn't have been a hundred years ago, of course, but that was a hundred years ago.

George Wallace...

Mmmm... George Wallace is dead.  Furthermore how are you so well versed about what was going on in Lincoln's day but have no clue about the 70s?  Just to get you up to speed...

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How on earth do you not know this?  What are they teaching in schools these days?  Or are you a victim of home schooling?

I did know that, but he stayed a Democrat even after that.  Those guys may be dead and gone, but doesn't it still matter that they were Democrats (and never became Republicans)?

No, it doesn't matter that someone decades ago was a Democrat and that his ideology has been completely rejected by the party.

Let's talk about Nixon, and how the GOP is the party of lying thieving scumbags. Doesn't it matter that Nixon was a Republican?

There have been plenty of lying thieving scumbags in the Democratic Party as well.  No party has a monopoly on that.  This exactly illustrates my point.  Nixon is dead.  But you are so quick to portray Republicans as liars, thieves, and scumbags because he was a Republican.  And aside from Watergate, Nixon was actually a pretty good president.

Yes. And there have been plenty of segregationists in the Republican Party as well (see Mr. Thurmond). No party has a monopoly on them. You're illustrating my point by bringing up dead people and painting Democrats as (what? pro-slavery or something?) them.

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Oldiesfreak, do you believe the modern day German state and government is responsible for the actions of Germany in the past? Would you agree with someone boycotting Germany because of WWII?

Does it not matter to you that Germany under the Nazis committed atrocities against Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, and other "inferior" or "unwanted" groups during the Holocaust?

Does it matter, yes. Does it matter when judging modern Germany, no.

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...it certainly doesn't reflect well on them, just as the Democratic Party's long history of racism doesn't reflect well on them, either.

Oldies, all white americans have a long history of racism - we live in a racist country built on genocide.  Every aspect of our culture, our identity, and all of our material possessions, land, and 'achievements' are blood-soaked and utterly spoiled.

Republicans, both black and white, consistently fought to advance civil rights, and Democrats consistently fought against it.  And where is this genocide that America is supposedly built on?

Oldiesfreak, I'm going to give you a challenge. Go an entire week without associating Democrats with racism/the Confederacy. I honestly don't think you can do it. Please prove me wrong.

Also, isn't it Saturday or something and you can't post?