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Question: In the Presidential election ...
Chavez/Chavez   -11 (32.4%)
Chavez/Capriles-Radonski   -12 (35.3%)
Capriles-Radonski/Chavez   -1 (2.9%)
Capriles-Radonski/Capriles-Radonski   -4 (11.8%)
Chavez/None of the 2   -6 (17.6%)
Capriles-Radonski/None of the 2   -0 (0%)
I don't care   -0 (0%)
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« on: October 06, 2012, 11:58:22 am »
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2012, 11:59:51 am »
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Chavez / not Chavez
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2012, 12:02:03 pm »
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Chavez / not Chavez

You need to vote Option 5 then ... Wink
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2012, 12:06:37 pm »
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Chavez/HCR
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2012, 12:36:48 pm »
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Where's the "None of the two/Chavez" option? I mean, why should we assume the eventual loser and their supporters will have accepted defeat by tomorrow night? Seems far-fetched unless Chavez wins by far more than expected.

(Yes, you're reading right. It seems far-fetched even if Capriles wins by far more than anybody thinks.)
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2012, 12:45:22 pm »
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I voted Chavez/None of the two, but if I had to choose I'd prefer HCR.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2012, 12:49:29 pm »
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None of the two/Chavez
None of the two/Capriles

... is impossible, because these 2 will get about 97-98% together. The others will get 2-3% or so.

I know what you mean, but someone will be sworn in as President some day.

Happened even in the US in 2000 ... Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2012, 02:22:54 pm »
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None of the two/Chavez
None of the two/Capriles

... is impossible, because these 2 will get about 97-98% together. The others will get 2-3% or so.

I know what you mean, but someone will be sworn in as President some day.

Happened even in the US in 2000 ... Tongue
But he certainly didn't "win" on election day. The coup that put him in office was weeks later.
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2012, 06:08:09 pm »
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Chavez 54
HCR      46

And I support HCR.
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2012, 06:18:18 pm »
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I would pull for HCR, but I wouldn't be surprised if Chavez wins by dubious means.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2012, 06:30:47 pm »
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Chavez/C-R

I'm gonna be pessimistic, but who knows?
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2012, 09:55:59 pm »
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Chavez/Chavez
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2012, 10:12:17 pm »
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Chavez/neither
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2012, 10:24:22 pm »
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Chavez/C-R

I'm gonna be pessimistic, but who knows?

Same reason I've went for Capriles-Radonski/Chavez.
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2012, 10:37:07 pm »
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Chavez/None of these.
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2012, 12:39:36 am »
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I revise my earlier prediction and predict an upset win by Capriles:

53-45 Capriles
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2012, 06:27:49 am »
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Chavez/Chavez
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2012, 09:22:53 am »
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Chavez will win.  And I used to want HCR to win, but now I know that he wants to privatize state assets and banks and everything.  So, I guess grudgingly HCR.  Maybe the left will be able to find someone who isn't corrupt and opposes the Chavez regime for the same reason as me to beat HCR in 2018.
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2012, 09:41:17 am »
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The problem is not what HCR wants, the problem is who he is allied with and needs to be if he wants to unite the opposition. No point having some "this personality cult is very camp and is seriously undermining democratization and so is Chavez as a person" third party campaign, the right wouldn't vote for that and Americans wouldn't bankroll that.
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2012, 10:07:28 am »
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Chavez, though Capriles and the western press will do their darndest to immediately de-legitimize and cast doubt on the result, so strong is their hatred of democracy for Venezuelans.

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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2012, 10:10:39 am »
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Chavez, though Capriles and the western press will do their darndest to immediately de-legitimize and cast doubt on the result, so strong is their hatred of democracy
third world independence. Please, Lief. Try to understand the actual issues.
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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2012, 10:58:43 am »
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Chavez, though Capriles and the western press will do their darndest to immediately de-legitimize and cast doubt on the result, so strong is their hatred of democracy
third world independence. Please, Lief. Try to understand the actual issues.


same thing, guy
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« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2012, 11:59:56 am »
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Anyone else to try a %-prediction of the outcome, so that Julio and I are not the only ones ?
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« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2012, 12:02:27 pm »
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I'm horrible at # predictions but here goes: 52-48 Chavez.
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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2012, 12:29:17 pm »
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Chavez, though Capriles and the western press will do their darndest to immediately de-legitimize and cast doubt on the result, so strong is their hatred of democracy
third world independence. Please, Lief. Try to understand the actual issues.


same thing, guy
Democracy is a feelgood term that means a lot of different things to different people - and most of Capriles' Western supporters very much approve of Democracy at home. It's only when browns elect people they haven't precleared that they get itchy.

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