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Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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In the Presidential election ...
Chavez/Chavez
11 (32.4%)
Chavez/Capriles-Radonski
12 (35.3%)
Capriles-Radonski/Chavez
1 (2.9%)
Capriles-Radonski/Capriles-Radonski
4 (11.8%)
Chavez/None of the 2
6 (17.6%)
Capriles-Radonski/None of the 2
0 (0%)
I don't care
0 (0%)
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Total Voters: 34
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Topic: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ? (Read 686 times)
Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 06, 2012, 11:58:22 am »
vs.
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Franzl
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 06, 2012, 11:59:51 am »
Chavez / not Chavez
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Tender Branson
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 06, 2012, 12:02:03 pm »
Quote from: Senator Franzl on October 06, 2012, 11:59:51 am
Chavez / not Chavez
You need to vote Option 5 then ...
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RogueBeaver
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 06, 2012, 12:06:37 pm »
Chavez/HCR
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+7.35, +3.65
Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
Vasall des Midas
Lewis Trondheim
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 06, 2012, 12:36:48 pm »
Where's the "None of the two/Chavez" option? I mean, why should we assume the eventual loser and their supporters will have accepted defeat by tomorrow night? Seems far-fetched unless Chavez wins by far more than expected.
(Yes, you're reading right. It seems far-fetched even if Capriles wins by far more than anybody thinks.)
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drj101
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 06, 2012, 12:45:22 pm »
I voted Chavez/None of the two, but if I had to choose I'd prefer HCR.
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Tender Branson
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 06, 2012, 12:49:29 pm »
None of the two/Chavez
None of the two/Capriles
... is impossible, because these 2 will get about 97-98% together. The others will get 2-3% or so.
I know what you mean, but someone will be sworn in as President some day.
Happened even in the US in 2000 ...
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Vasall des Midas
Lewis Trondheim
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 06, 2012, 02:22:54 pm »
Quote from: Tender Branson on October 06, 2012, 12:49:29 pm
None of the two/Chavez
None of the two/Capriles
... is impossible, because these 2 will get about 97-98% together. The others will get 2-3% or so.
I know what you mean, but someone will be sworn in as President some day.
Happened even in the US in 2000 ...
But he certainly didn't "win" on election day. The coup that put him in office was weeks later.
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Quote from: True Federalist on April 28, 2013, 01:25:07 am
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JulioMadrid
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 06, 2012, 06:08:09 pm »
Chavez 54
HCR 46
And I support HCR.
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My evolution:
E: -6.06 -> -6.97 -> -6.97 -> -8.13
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MasterSanders
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 06, 2012, 06:18:18 pm »
I would pull for HCR, but I wouldn't be surprised if Chavez wins by dubious means.
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Californian Tony
Antonio V
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 06, 2012, 06:30:47 pm »
Chavez/C-R
I'm gonna be pessimistic, but who knows?
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Truer today than it was yesterday.
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seatown
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 06, 2012, 09:55:59 pm »
Chavez/Chavez
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Senator Snowstalker
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October 06, 2012, 10:12:17 pm »
Chavez/neither
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Quote from: 31: A New Bushie on April 30, 2013, 01:33:54 pm
I wouldn't touch the Carnival cruise ships with a 10 foot pole. Too many things have gone wrong in the last ~6 months for me to even consider it anymore.
Leftbehind
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 06, 2012, 10:24:22 pm »
Quote from: Californian Tony on October 06, 2012, 06:30:47 pm
Chavez/C-R
I'm gonna be pessimistic, but who knows?
Same reason I've went for Capriles-Radonski/Chavez.
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E: -8.26 S: -3.3
asexual trans victimologist
Nathan
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October 06, 2012, 10:37:07 pm »
Chavez/None of these.
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Quote from: Averroës Nix on October 18, 2012, 07:59:32 pm
Professor
Nathan: A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights. Can you really trust him?
Quote from: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 03:29:18 pm
It's like one minute you're preaching from the pulpit at some exceedingly dull church; the next you're a giving a Womens' Studies lecture at Berkeley.
Tender Branson
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 07, 2012, 12:39:36 am »
I revise my earlier prediction and predict an upset win by Capriles:
53-45 Capriles
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RedPrometheus
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 07, 2012, 06:27:49 am »
Chavez/Chavez
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Peter the Lefty
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 07, 2012, 09:22:53 am »
Chavez will win. And I used to want HCR to win, but now I know that he wants to privatize state assets and banks and everything. So, I guess grudgingly HCR. Maybe the left will be able to find someone who isn't corrupt and opposes the Chavez regime for the same reason as me to beat HCR in 2018.
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Vasall des Midas
Lewis Trondheim
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 07, 2012, 09:41:17 am »
The problem is not what HCR wants, the problem is who he is allied with and needs to be if he wants to unite the opposition. No point having some "this personality cult is very camp and is seriously undermining democratization and so is Chavez as a person" third party campaign, the right wouldn't vote for that and Americans wouldn't bankroll that.
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Quote from: True Federalist on April 28, 2013, 01:25:07 am
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Lief
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 07, 2012, 10:07:28 am »
Chavez, though Capriles and the western press will do their darndest to immediately de-legitimize and cast doubt on the result, so strong is their hatred of democracy
for Venezuelans.
edit: pedantic Lewis edit
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Vasall des Midas
Lewis Trondheim
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Quote from: Lief on October 07, 2012, 10:07:28 am
Chavez, though Capriles and the western press will do their darndest to immediately de-legitimize and cast doubt on the result, so strong is their hatred of
democracy
third world independence. Please, Lief. Try to understand the actual issues.
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Quote from: True Federalist on April 28, 2013, 01:25:07 am
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Lief
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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Quote from: Minion of Midas on October 07, 2012, 10:10:39 am
Quote from: Lief on October 07, 2012, 10:07:28 am
Chavez, though Capriles and the western press will do their darndest to immediately de-legitimize and cast doubt on the result, so strong is their hatred of
democracy
third world independence. Please, Lief. Try to understand the actual issues.
same thing, guy
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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Anyone else to try a %-prediction of the outcome, so that Julio and I are not the only ones ?
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RogueBeaver
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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October 07, 2012, 12:02:27 pm »
I'm horrible at # predictions but here goes: 52-48 Chavez.
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+7.35, +3.65
Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
Vasall des Midas
Lewis Trondheim
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Re: Who wins in Venezuela tomorrow / Who do you want to win ?
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Quote from: Lief on October 07, 2012, 10:58:43 am
Quote from: Minion of Midas on October 07, 2012, 10:10:39 am
Quote from: Lief on October 07, 2012, 10:07:28 am
Chavez, though Capriles and the western press will do their darndest to immediately de-legitimize and cast doubt on the result, so strong is their hatred of
democracy
third world independence. Please, Lief. Try to understand the actual issues.
same thing, guy
Democracy is a feelgood term that means a lot of different things to different people - and most of Capriles' Western supporters very much approve of Democracy at home. It's only when browns elect people they haven't precleared that they get itchy.
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