Any Other Dems Slightly Scared Now?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

As Oakie has often said... the natural state for liberals is 'loserism' ... we see adversities and flee thinking "oh, they've won again... gah" and walk away, well before the battle has actually been lost.

I think Obama's supporters need to hold our nerve.

[Lincoln Republican]

Can we ban Opebo already? He/she doesn't belong here.

Don't be ridiculous.

Opebo has as much right to express his views as anyone else.

If you don't like what he has to say, then don't read it.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I'm a Democrat, I'm always scared.

[Biden 2024]

Can we ban Opebo already? He/she doesn't belong here.

Don't be ridiculous.

Opebo has as much right to express his views as anyone else.

If you don't like what he has to say, then don't read it.

I have gained respect for you, Winfield.

[Ty440]

Can we ban Opebo already? He/she doesn't belong here.

You upstart!  I've been pointing out the racist voting for well over half a decade, and you want to ban me for what?  Being right?

To quote Rodney King....

Can't we all just get along?

[Brittain33]

This is a very valid question.

Hey, Opebo, if 38 percent of Whites support Obama, and only 4 percent of blacks support Romney, does that mean that whites are actually 900 percent less racist?

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100% of black voters before 2008 have voted for white candidates. Plenty of white voters never have, and some of them never will.

[Antonio the Sixth]

As Oakie has often said... the natural state for liberals is 'loserism' ... we see adversities and flee thinking "oh, they've won again... gah" and walk away, well before the battle has actually been lost.

But isn't this kind of attitude at least partly a result of our past experiences? I might be wrong, but my gut feeling is that left-wing candidates win less often than right-wing ones in most countries in the world. And in order to win, they have to move to the centre more sharply than right-wing candidates. A major gaffe/scandal, and they're out, while right-wingers are forgiven much more easily. When left-wing prospects seem good in polling numbers, there's always some "shy conservative effect" or some lat minute swing (see Demnark 2011, France 2012, Québec 2012). I know I'm exaggerating but, overall, I have the feeling that, everything else being equal, voters instinctively tend to favor the right.

[Frodo]

As Oakie has often said... the natural state for liberals is 'loserism' ... we see adversities and flee thinking "oh, they've won again... gah" and walk away, well before the battle has actually been lost.

But isn't this kind of attitude at least partly a result of our past experiences? I might be wrong, but my gut feeling is that left-wing candidates win less often than right-wing ones in most countries in the world. And in order to win, they have to move to the centre more sharply than right-wing candidates. A major gaffe/scandal, and they're out, while right-wingers are forgiven much more easily. When left-wing prospects seem good in polling numbers, there's always some "shy conservative effect" or some lat minute swing (see Demnark 2011, France 2012, Québec 2012). I know I'm exaggerating but, overall, I have the feeling that, everything else being equal, voters instinctively tend to favor the right.

It seems the opposite holds in Canada and Britain. 

[Antonio the Sixth]

As Oakie has often said... the natural state for liberals is 'loserism' ... we see adversities and flee thinking "oh, they've won again... gah" and walk away, well before the battle has actually been lost.

But isn't this kind of attitude at least partly a result of our past experiences? I might be wrong, but my gut feeling is that left-wing candidates win less often than right-wing ones in most countries in the world. And in order to win, they have to move to the centre more sharply than right-wing candidates. A major gaffe/scandal, and they're out, while right-wingers are forgiven much more easily. When left-wing prospects seem good in polling numbers, there's always some "shy conservative effect" or some lat minute swing (see Demnark 2011, France 2012, Québec 2012). I know I'm exaggerating but, overall, I have the feeling that, everything else being equal, voters instinctively tend to favor the right.

It seems the opposite holds in Canada and Britain. 

Britain? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_1992

I'm not sure for Canada, since after all Harper eventually got his majority. But obviously, there are plenty of exception and not enough data to prove this phenomenon objectively. Still, I really feel there is something in the voters' psychology that makes them more likely to support the right in average conditions, and to hold the left to a significantly higher standard.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

All I'm going to say is that Democrats need to expect a few days of pretty ugly numbers...

[Thomas D]

I'm not worried. At least not yet.

[Ty440]

This is a very valid question.

Hey, Opebo, if 38 percent of Whites support Obama, and only 4 percent of blacks support Romney, does that mean that whites are actually 900 percent less racist?

100% of black voters before 2008 have voted for white candidates. Plenty of white voters never have, and some of them never will.
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100% agree

[Brittain33]

I'm not worried. At least not yet.

Yeah, we'll see what Romney's bounce is and how long it lasts, but Obama's lead was so massive that Romney could simply bounce up to being 1-2 points behind. Which isn't great, but it's too early to make myself upset about. Ohio is quite a firewall for Obama.

[J. J.]

Yeah the thing with Romney is he's a runner. You can't pin him down. First, he says A, then you point out what's wrong with A, and he says never mind A, B. And then you start to talk about B, but Romney's already moved onto his new position, C.

The thing is Romney has laid out a plan, the details of which are vague.  Obama hasn't done that.

[morgieb]

Apparently Romney peaked on Friday, so I'm not sure what to think.

I'll wait until the next debate.

[LastVoter]

As Oakie has often said... the natural state for liberals is 'loserism' ... we see adversities and flee thinking "oh, they've won again... gah" and walk away, well before the battle has actually been lost.

But isn't this kind of attitude at least partly a result of our past experiences? I might be wrong, but my gut feeling is that left-wing candidates win less often than right-wing ones in most countries in the world. And in order to win, they have to move to the centre more sharply than right-wing candidates. A major gaffe/scandal, and they're out, while right-wingers are forgiven much more easily. When left-wing prospects seem good in polling numbers, there's always some "shy conservative effect" or some lat minute swing (see Demnark 2011, France 2012, Québec 2012). I know I'm exaggerating but, overall, I have the feeling that, everything else being equal, voters instinctively tend to favor the right.

I think this has only happened in last three or four decades, that's why right wingers have run off into loony land.

[Politico]

Can we ban Opebo already? He/she doesn't belong here.

Don't be ridiculous.

Opebo has as much right to express his views as anyone else.

If you don't like what he has to say, then don't read it.

This.

Winfield is a Freedom Fighter like no other! Win WITH Winfield!

[Wisconsin+17]

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So I take it you believe a poll with only a democrats on it tells you the strength of voter preference for Republicans?

C'mon, this is a worthless argument. You can do better.

[Wisconsin+17]

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Bullsh**t - racism is racism. You don't believe that hispanics and blacks can be racist to each other?

And yes, the evidence is pretty solidly in favour of whites being the least racist. They are the most likely race to vote for someone not of their race when given a choice between a white person and someone who isn't white.

[LastVoter]

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Bullsh**t - racism is racism. You don't believe that hispanics and blacks can be racist to each other?

And yes, the evidence is pretty solidly in favour of whites being the least racist. They are the most likely race to vote for someone not of their race when given a choice between a white person and someone who isn't white.

As expected, you have totally missed the point. It doesn't matter what the peasant thinks of the lord.

[Wisconsin+17]

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I don't regard Obama as my Lord. Perhaps you do. Tell Lord Obama I said hello. He might only Force Choke you for displeasing him.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

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Hey, Opebo, if 38 percent of Whites support Obama, and only 4 percent of blacks support Romney, does that mean that whites are actually 900 percent less racist?

It's not 900 percent less than anything - that would be a negative number.
Also, saying that one group or another is less racist doesn't make quantifiable sense - the most you can say is that there are fewer admitted racists in one group than another based on a question that is clearly dependent on racism.
Besides, Obama is the first member of his minority to become President, of a party most blacks tend to support anyway.  The more appropriate comparison would be how many Mormons are supporting Romney.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

No.  The jobs numbers negated the debate.  It's over.  Obama loses NC and IN, but wins all his states from '08.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

This is a very valid question.

Hey, Opebo, if 38 percent of Whites support Obama, and only 4 percent of blacks support Romney, does that mean that whites are actually 900 percent less racist?

100% of black voters before 2008 have voted for white candidates. Plenty of white voters never have, and some of them never will.
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beautiful observation.  If there's one thing in this country I hate is "reverse racism"... the disgusting idea that whites are somehow just as victimized. A pathetic argument by ignorant people.  

[Wisconsin+17]

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900 percent less likely to be racist.

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Sure it does. 4 percent of blacks voting for a white candidate over a black candidate vs 36 percent of whites voting for a black candidate over a white candidate, means that the average white person is 9x more likely to vote for a candidate who is not of their race.

Now, you could make the argument that racism!= voting for someone of the same color as you - but that's the argument that opebo is making. If you are a black person voting for Obama over Romney you are a racist.