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Lieutenant Governor Clinton1996
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PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 06:05:50 pm »
No link yet, but Obama still clings to a small lead in the Badger state, 49-47. That's a tightening from a 7 point lead in late September, 52-45. No link yet. But it seems that Friday was a worse polling day in the state for him and that the Saturday interviews looked more like the pre-debate ones.
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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-lead-down-to-2-in-wisconsin.html
Breath a sigh of relief my fellow Democrats.
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The main shift compared to 2 weeks ago in Wisconsin is an increase in Republican enthusiasm about Romney and the election in general. He's gone from leading Obama by 79 points with Republicans (89-10) to an 85 point advantage (92-7). One thing that might be reassuring for Democrats is that Obama's held steady with independents in the state, continuing to hold a 9 point lead.
But Mitts favorables have shifted from an underwater 44-51 to 49-58. White voters have gone from favoring Obama by 5 to supporting Romney by 3. That's a net -8 from the President.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 06:07:30 pm »
Yeah, it seems Friday must of have been the best polling day for Mitt this entire election.
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Secretary Polnut
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 06:09:56 pm »
I actually predicted that exact result on another forum! damn, why didn't I do it here.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 06:20:45 pm »
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Other thing I'll say is Saturday interviews we've done for polls across the country look a lot more like our pre-debate than Friday numbers
Hmmm...
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Thomas D
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 06:31:33 pm »
Big Birds Fav numbers among the WI GOP:
37/12
What is wrong with these people?
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 06:32:46 pm »
Wow. Now this is what a bounce looks like.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 06:44:25 pm »
Good bounce for Mitt but if he's still down here after that debate it doesn't look terribly promising.
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Secretary Polnut
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 06:47:19 pm »
Looking at the internals... Obama's increased his position among Indies, but Romney has consolidated his support among the GOP... and some Dems may have shifted to the undecideds...
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 06:55:01 pm »
Very good numbers or Romney. I believe He can still win this state.
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RogueBeaver
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 08:02:11 pm »
Good news, let's see if Romney can keep it up. Not winning Badgerland except as 293/297.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 08:13:32 pm »
It's a good number for sure, but if it's true Romney peaked on Friday - he'll have to do really well to maintain momentum.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 08:43:30 pm »
Wow. It's worse than I thought. Looks like opebo was right: complete collapse with white voters. If it's this bad in Wisconsin, a relatively racially enlightened state, I'd hate to see the numbers in Ohio or Virginia.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 08:48:56 pm »
Quote from: Lief on October 06, 2012, 08:43:30 pm
Wow. It's worse than I thought. Looks like opebo was right: complete collapse with white voters. If it's this bad in Wisconsin, a relatively racially enlightened state, I'd hate to see the numbers in Ohio or Virginia.
Oh just relax lol
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 08:50:01 pm »
Well, it is a bounce, but there is no guarantee it will hold.
And Lief, take a pill.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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Quote from: Lief on October 06, 2012, 08:43:30 pm
Wow. It's worse than I thought. Looks like opebo was right: complete collapse with white voters. If it's this bad in Wisconsin, a relatively racially enlightened state, I'd hate to see the numbers in Ohio or Virginia.
Obebo is a sage when it comes to the white voter. When he says whites aren't gonna vote for you. You can take it to the bank.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 06, 2012, 08:59:37 pm »
Apart from 2008 of course...
The white voter has been especially skittish this year, they were behind Obama, then Romney, then back to Obama and now back to Romney - there's absolutely no reason to assume they can't move again in a month...
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 07, 2012, 12:30:32 am »
If Romney is not up here currently, he is not winning it without winning the PV. It all comes down to Ohio.
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J. J.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 07, 2012, 12:57:24 am »
Quote from: Senator Sbane on October 07, 2012, 12:30:32 am
If Romney is not up here currently, he is not winning it without winning the PV. It all comes down to Ohio.
We could see an expanding base for Romney as well.
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J. J.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 07, 2012, 01:01:58 am »
Quote from: J. J. on October 07, 2012, 12:57:24 am
Quote from: Senator Sbane on October 07, 2012, 12:30:32 am
If Romney is not up here currently, he is not winning it without winning the PV. It all comes down to Ohio.
We could see an expanding base for Romney as well.
In terms of states? What other states besides Wisconsin are you looking at? Obviously states like VA, IA, CO and FL on their own aren't going to cut it for Romney, though they are prerequisites. Adding NH to that list doesn't work. NV and WI are the only ones who work and I do think Romney has a better chance in WI than NV. This poll shows that WI is not a Romney state even when he is in a strong position, thus I think OH is still the key. And although I do think Opebo is trolling with his "racist whites" meme, in OH it might actually affect the race. The type of people Obama needs to win in OH tend to not like Blacks.
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J. J.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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Quote from: Senator Sbane on October 07, 2012, 01:01:58 am
Quote from: J. J. on October 07, 2012, 12:57:24 am
Quote from: Senator Sbane on October 07, 2012, 12:30:32 am
If Romney is not up here currently, he is not winning it without winning the PV. It all comes down to Ohio.
We could see an expanding base for Romney as well.
In terms of states? What other states besides Wisconsin are you looking at? Obviously states like VA, IA, CO and FL on their own aren't going to cut it for Romney, though they are prerequisites. Adding NH to that list doesn't work. NV and WI are the only ones who work and I do think Romney has a better chance in WI than NV. This poll shows that WI is not a Romney state even when he is in a strong position, thus I think OH is still the key. And although I do think Opebo is trolling with his "racist whites" meme, in OH it might actually affect the race. The type of people Obama needs to win in OH tend to not like Blacks.
I mean Romney could also be broadening his support.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 07, 2012, 05:22:35 am »
Do any of the Republicans in this forum outside of JJ and Phil have ANYTHING to contribute outside of "GOOD NEWS"?
and any bounce from the debate Romney got is washed out by the jobs report. People flocked to Romney for 2 days because he made a great (BS, mind you) case that the economy was going to sh**t. Friday negated that. Obama by 5.5 on election day.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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Quote from: J. J. on October 07, 2012, 01:08:15 am
Quote from: Senator Sbane on October 07, 2012, 01:01:58 am
Quote from: J. J. on October 07, 2012, 12:57:24 am
Quote from: Senator Sbane on October 07, 2012, 12:30:32 am
If Romney is not up here currently, he is not winning it without winning the PV. It all comes down to Ohio.
We could see an expanding base for Romney as well.
In terms of states? What other states besides Wisconsin are you looking at? Obviously states like VA, IA, CO and FL on their own aren't going to cut it for Romney, though they are prerequisites. Adding NH to that list doesn't work. NV and WI are the only ones who work and I do think Romney has a better chance in WI than NV. This poll shows that WI is not a Romney state even when he is in a strong position, thus I think OH is still the key. And although I do think Opebo is trolling with his "racist whites" meme, in OH it might actually affect the race. The type of people Obama needs to win in OH tend to not like Blacks.
I mean Romney could also be broadening his support.
What exactly do you mean by this? Romney can win an unexpected state when the PV is basically tied?
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J. J.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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Quote from: AWallTEP81 on October 07, 2012, 05:22:35 am
Do any of the Republicans in this forum outside of JJ and Phil have ANYTHING to contribute outside of "GOOD NEWS"?
and any bounce from the debate Romney got is washed out by the jobs report. People flocked to Romney for 2 days because he made a great (BS, mind you) case that the economy was going to sh**t. Friday negated that. Obama by 5.5 on election day.
No "negation," so far. 2/3 of Rasmussen sample has been after the jobs number, and it is unchanged.
Also keep in mind that Obama can claim that unemployment is no
worse
when he took office. He can't claim it is
better
than when he took office. Bush did get reelected, however, with worse numbers (though not as bad).
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 07, 2012, 08:54:44 am »
Quote from: Senator Sbane on October 07, 2012, 08:52:27 am
What exactly do you mean by this? Romney can win an unexpected state when the PV is basically tied?
He could be attracting undecides.
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Re: PPP Wisconsin: Obama 49-47
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October 07, 2012, 10:00:19 am »
Quote from: AWallTEP81 on October 07, 2012, 05:22:35 am
Do any of the Republicans in this forum outside of JJ and Phil have ANYTHING to contribute outside of "GOOD NEWS"?
and any bounce from the debate Romney got is washed out by the jobs report. People flocked to Romney for 2 days because he made a great (BS, mind you) case that the economy was going to sh**t. Friday negated that. Obama by 5.5 on election day.
You mean the jimmied up jobs report? The unemployment rate does not fall by almost half a percentage point without the economy creating 300,000+ jobs. It just doesnt happen.
Im nearly 100% certain that the Obama administration played around with these numbers in order to get a result that Obama wanted before the election. You cant change the number of jobs created, but you can change the rate.
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