United States presidential election, 2024

[Kitteh]

One of these days, I need to get one of you guys to explain the whole libertarianism thing to me.

libertarianism is the belief in living your life without fear of wiretaps or being indefinitely detained.

I'm no supporter of wiretapping or indefinite detention, but if you really live your life in fear of wiretaps or being indefinitely detained, you should go see a psychiatrist.

[Cryptic]

Voted for Castro, but was a little torn between him and Kasparian.

[DC Al Fine]

Stuck between Rand and Dreher, but eventually picked Dreher.

[Mercenary]

So I was ready to pick Rand Paul easily, I mean after all I supported him in his Senate race and his father's presidential race in 08 and 12. It seemed only natural I'd support him here too.

But then I looked at this Dreher guy and read some things on him. This whole concept of "Crunchy Conservative" or whatever is like exactly me. I thought my mix of views were too uncommon to actually have anyone who may think similar. The closest I found were typically paleocons in the Paul supporter camp, but I wasn't so gung-ho absolutist on capitalism. Not that I oppose it or anything, just that I'd definitely more to the left on the issue that the typical conservative. But the way Dreher was talking about issues sure fit me. I'm very traditionalist on cultural issues too, although I am not religious myself. And I certainly agree with the suggestion "those who want to live with traditional morality should separate themselves to some degree from mainstream society and try to live in intentional communities". Heck, that was my exact plan, I just need to find such a community or start my own.

So, yeah I guess, in a shock to myself, I'll vote for him.

[Hatman 🍁]

Jeez, none of those candidates will have aged at all over the next 12 years.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Honestly, the number of people voting for Rand Paul worries and disappoints me.

That's how I feel about people voting for Romney or Obama (or McCain or W or Kerry or Gore)...I'll use the lame ass excuse they use, I'm just voting for the lesser of 5 evils.

One of these days, I need to get one of you guys to explain the whole libertarianism thing to me.

In the broad sense, it is a wide-ranging and deep skepticism about government power, and a commitment to allowing people to make a wide range of decisions in their lives, with no division in liberty as it relates to "social" or "economic" issues.
In the narrower sense, it is the belief in a non-aggression principle that limits government action except for strictly defensive purposes, with all coercion understood as immoral.

I voted Dreher here - even realizing he wouldn't want the job if he won. Though I have some disagreements with him, he's generally a pretty thoughtful and interesting person.

[Simfan34]

Jeez, none of those candidates will have aged at all over the next 12 years.

Do you want pictures from 2024? Where could I find these?

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

Jeez, none of those candidates will have aged at all over the next 12 years.

Do you want pictures from 2024? Where could I find these?

Use Photoshop. Come on, you know you want to.

[Simfan34]

Maybe later today.

[Simfan34]

Bump! Neoliberal heaven!

[Kingpoleon]

Are you reviving this for 2028?

[Goldwater]

Either Margaret Hoover or Rand Paul , I can't decide which on I should vote for...

Yeah, I think Margaret Hoover is the one I would vote for.