MA: Unnamed Bill #1 of the 26th Assembly (Failed)

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

1. In order to commemorate some of the Mideast's greatest leaders, the states of the best region in Atlasia shall be renamed as follows: Illinois shall henceforth be known as Lincoln. Indiana shall henceforth be known as Debs. Kentucky shall henceforth be known as Clay. Maryland shall henceforth be known as Marshall. Michigan shall henceforth be known as Ford. Missouri shall henceforth be known as Truman. Ohio shall henceforth be known as Taft. Virginia shall henceforth be known as Jefferson. West Virginia shall henceforth be known as Byrd. Wisconsin shall henceforth be known as La Follette.

Sponsor: Gass3268

[Jayhawker]

I have a slight issue with this - Mainly, none of these folks exist in Atlasia - to Atlasians, they're all foreign.

However, if I'm outnumbered by a veto-proof majority, all I request is that Indiana be changed to Lugar, even Bayh if it comes down to it. But Debs? Please no.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

I'm opposed to this.  It causes confusion.

[Senator X]

I have a slight issue with this - Mainly, none of these folks exist in Atlasia - to Atlasians, they're all foreign.

However, if I'm outnumbered by a veto-proof majority, all I request is that Indiana be changed to Lugar, even Bayh if it comes down to it. But Debs? Please no.

As long as Ohio can be changed from Taft to Johnson (Cleveland Mayor Tom Johnson).  I think speak for most Ohioans when I say that I am strongly opposed to calling our state Taft.  That name is pretty much dead to the state after Bob Taft's tenure.

[Gass3268]

I have a slight issue with this - Mainly, none of these folks exist in Atlasia - to Atlasians, they're all foreign.

However, if I'm outnumbered by a veto-proof majority, all I request is that Indiana be changed to Lugar, even Bayh if it comes down to it. But Debs? Please no.

I thought the idea of Atlasia was that it was a continuation/reboot/improvement of the United States since 2004?

While I'd rather name the states after leaders that have passed on, I would be cool with naming Indiana Lugar if you are willing to approve the bill.

I have a slight issue with this - Mainly, none of these folks exist in Atlasia - to Atlasians, they're all foreign.

However, if I'm outnumbered by a veto-proof majority, all I request is that Indiana be changed to Lugar, even Bayh if it comes down to it. But Debs? Please no.

As long as Ohio can be changed from Taft to Johnson (Cleveland Mayor Tom Johnson).  I think speak for most Ohioans when I say that I am strongly opposed to calling our state Taft.  That name is pretty much dead to the state after Bob Taft's tenure.

What about Grant or Sherman? For Grant, I am thinking more of his Civil War service then his 2 terms as President.

[Senator X]

I have a slight issue with this - Mainly, none of these folks exist in Atlasia - to Atlasians, they're all foreign.

However, if I'm outnumbered by a veto-proof majority, all I request is that Indiana be changed to Lugar, even Bayh if it comes down to it. But Debs? Please no.

I thought the idea of Atlasia was that it was a continuation/reboot/improvement of the United States since 2004?

While I'd rather name the states after leaders that have passed on, I would be cool with naming Indiana Lugar if you are willing to approve the bill.

I have a slight issue with this - Mainly, none of these folks exist in Atlasia - to Atlasians, they're all foreign.

However, if I'm outnumbered by a veto-proof majority, all I request is that Indiana be changed to Lugar, even Bayh if it comes down to it. But Debs? Please no.

As long as Ohio can be changed from Taft to Johnson (Cleveland Mayor Tom Johnson).  I think speak for most Ohioans when I say that I am strongly opposed to calling our state Taft.  That name is pretty much dead to the state after Bob Taft's tenure.

What about Grant or Sherman? For Grant, I am thinking more of his Civil War service then his 2 terms as President.

I don't think either could be called "great leaders."  Great generals to be sure, but not great political leaders.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

What exactly is it that this bill does?  Is it legally changing the names?

[Gass3268]

Yeah, Michigan would from now on be called Ford, Virginia would be called Jefferson, etc.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

But if we're legally changing the name, that would have to be a constitutional amendment, and it may even conflict with federal law.

[Big Wiggly Style]

Like I said, only the Midwest gets to have different state names. For us to try and copy that would look asinine, to be honest.

[shua]

Missouri should be called Danforth.

[Big Wiggly Style]

Missouri should be called Danforth.

It should be called Missouri.

[Gass3268]

But if we're legally changing the name, that would have to be a constitutional amendment, and it may even conflict with federal law.

The Midwest already did it with just a regular law, why cant't we. 

Like I said, only the Midwest gets to have different state names. For us to try and copy that would look asinine, to be honest.

I don't see the problem with the Mideast trying something similar but different.

[Big Wiggly Style]

Like I said, only the Midwest gets to have different state names. For us to try and copy that would look asinine, to be honest.

I don't see the problem with the Mideast trying something similar but different.

It's confusing and superfluous.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

Seeing no futher debate, this is brought to a final vote.  Members will vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.  This will be a 48-hour vote.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

NAY

[Big Wiggly Style]

Nay

[Gass3268]

AYE!

[Senator X]

Aye

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

Voting is now closed.  The AYEs are 2, and the NAYs are 2, with 1 not voting.  The AYEs not having a majority, the bill has failed.