Biden laughing at the issues

[Jacob]

New GOP ad reflecing how Biden doesn't take the issues seriously and just laughs them off during the VP debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCtemaHgjyA

there you go again lying making stuff up. I understand you upset ryan lost the debate have fin being an republican opps i mean independent

I'm not making 'stuff' up, watch the video.  Joe Biden cannot defend Obama's record, it's a tough position to be in.  Brushing it off as something funny, is not funny.  Secondly, Ryan did not lose the debate, read the polls from CNN.  Ryan won 48%, Biden by 44%.

And ABC said it was 50%-31% Biden.  But of course you know that. 

That's the CBS poll which was 50-31. And that poll was of undecided likely voters. The CNN poll the Republican above is citing to you is one of registered voters, and that poll also oversampled  Republicans.
Do not fear, however. Any Republican deficits will be made up for by attempted voter purges and intimidation.

[Jacob]

New GOP ad reflecing how Biden doesn't take the issues seriously and just laughs them off during the VP debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCtemaHgjyA

there you go again lying making stuff up. I understand you upset ryan lost the debate have fin being an republican opps i mean independent

I'm not making 'stuff' up, watch the video.  Joe Biden cannot defend Obama's record, it's a tough position to be in.  Brushing it off as something funny, is not funny.  Secondly, Ryan did not lose the debate, read the polls from CNN.  Ryan won 48%, Biden by 44%.

And ABC said it was 50%-31% Biden.  But of course you know that. 

BREAKING NEWS ALSO CBS SAYS JOE BIDEN WON THE DEBATE

So winning the debate by being arrogant, laughing, smiling and interupting his opponent while he cant defend his record over the last 4 years? Sure, I believe it.

Sooo... 5280 thinks polls are rigged. CBS in the tank for Obama. Do you believe the BLS manipulated jobs numbers, 5280? I wanna know how far you'll go.

[Jacob]

New GOP ad reflecing how Biden doesn't take the issues seriously and just laughs them off during the VP debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCtemaHgjyA

there you go again lying making stuff up. I understand you upset ryan lost the debate have fin being an republican opps i mean independent

I'm not making 'stuff' up, watch the video.  Joe Biden cannot defend Obama's record, it's a tough position to be in.  Brushing it off as something funny, is not funny.  Secondly, Ryan did not lose the debate, read the polls from CNN.  Ryan won 48%, Biden by 44%.

And ABC said it was 50%-31% Biden.  But of course you know that.  

BREAKING NEWS ALSO CBS SAYS JOE BIDEN WON THE DEBATE

So winning the debate by being arrogant, laughing, smiling and interupting his opponent while he cant defend his record over the last 4 years? Sure, I believe it.

Sooo... 5280 thinks polls are rigged. CBS in the tank for Obama. Do you believe the BLS manipulated jobs numbers, 5280? I wanna know how far you'll go.

Woah dude, he pointed out the tactics used to 'win' the debate. Nowhere was polling mentioned as rigged or CBS in the tank or any of your other tangential assumptions. The hard truth is that Biden was pushy and that looks like a win to most. He also blatantly ripped the intelligence community of the USA with his Benghazi lines and failed to win back those independents that Obama could use as a backup plan in case this mega gotv thing doesn't pan out.

Given Joe's performance and rhetoric used tonight it's not about the independent or centrist voter, it's about rallying the base and that's the basket the dems now have all their eggs in. Ryan went for solidifying their advantage with the centre with the multiple mentions of bipartisanship continuing on Romneys message from last week. It's yet to see which strategy will ultimately pay off.

Ultimately both sides made their backers pleased so I'd call that a tie if I ever saw one.

The "sure I believe it" line smacked of sarcasm. If that's the case, then it's as I said it was. He doesn't believe the polls. If he does, then how can he deny it was a Biden win? I've only seen  one poll of UNDECIDED LIKELY VOTERS, and Biden won by 19.

[Jacob]

The "sure I believe it" line smacked of sarcasm. If that's the case, then it's as I said it was. He doesn't believe the polls. If he does, then how can he deny it was a Biden win? I've only seen  one poll of UNDECIDED LIKELY VOTERS, and Biden won by 19.

Reading sarcasm into typed lines is always an effort in futility. Furthermore the fact that there is a debate about who won (and don't deny there is, only someone in a partisan bubble would call this a 100% net positive performance for either side: both candidates clearly were not even in getting their messages across) points to the fact that both sides of the divide are mostly happy with what their candidates said. Leaving the shifts to come from their intended audience, which no silly flash poll will capture.

Win is a win bro. Romney played very loose with facts in debate #1 but this same CBS poll of undecideds gave Romney a win over Obama by only a slightly larger margin. Facts are facts. Can't cite one poll and then dismiss the same polling outfit a week later. Sorry bro

[Jacob]

Win is a win bro. Romney played very loose with facts in debate #1 but this same CBS poll of undecideds gave Romney a win over Obama by only a slightly larger margin. Facts are facts. Can't cite one poll and then dismiss the same polling outfit a week later. Sorry bro

Not your bro, first off. Second, I don't cite polls, don't claim that I do when I don't. I have little to no faith in them hence my insistence on not reading too much into any of those currently trending. Which leads me to third: polls are not facts, period. They are polls, that's why there's margins of errors, etc. The debate tonight was not a blowout for either party, they did what their bases hoped, and therefore I believe will be insignificant in the larger dynamics of the race.

19 points is well outside the margin of error. So you're a poll skeptic too? Do you also doubt the BLS #'s?
What do you use if not polls? Hold a wet finger to the wind? Intuition?