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freefair
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« on: October 13, 2012, 11:46:54 AM »

Nope. Most working class UK Labour voters I know from the urban West Midlands are for tough immigration rules, againts the EU, and harsh ponishment for violent crime, but socialist on economic policy and not racist or homphobic. It could best be described as "sovereign socialism" or in the US "National Liberalism".
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2012, 12:29:31 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2012, 12:35:08 PM by freefair »

What Sibboleth said. Xenophobia is a right-wing value. Openness and internationalism are left-wing values. Period.
What a pratty thing to say. I suppose David Laws, Ken Clarke and Gary Johnson are ultra nationalist freaks by your definition. I'd also guess Stalin was a soppy peacenik.
There are millions of patriotic, eurosceptic, ant-imigration people in this nation who are socially liberal, atheists and socialists who loathe the Tory party, and it is fundamentally illegitimate to describe them as right wing.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2012, 12:37:17 PM »

Not this sh!t again. One of these days this kind of drivel will actually drive me to commit a violent act. But not tonight. Instead...
Since nobody was calling the Nazi's left wing, we'd rather you dealth with the Idea that maybe fully fledged economic collectivism and democratic socialism can co-exist with racial prejudice, national patriotism and xenophobia.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2012, 06:32:07 PM »

To me, far left and center left politics are differing degrees of the same belief, whereas center right and far right politics are two different creatures that cannot be reconciled.
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