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Question: Should Cascadia become an independent country?
Yes   -22 (56.4%)
No   -11 (28.2%)
WTF   -6 (15.4%)
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« on: October 13, 2012, 08:03:04 pm »
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_(independence_movement)
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2012, 10:25:30 pm »
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of course, I support all sorts of North American devolution
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2012, 11:22:31 pm »
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Secession is explicitly illegal, so no. No state(s) should be allowed to leave the union, period.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2012, 01:10:14 am »
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Honestly I'd rather abolish the states and the Senate and have a unitary federal government on top of a layer of local government than have the states split off into separate countries.
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2012, 01:35:12 am »
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Cascadia would become one of the greatest countries in the history of the human race, so yes, I wholeheartedly support this.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2012, 01:47:22 am »
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2012, 01:50:48 am »
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of course, I support all sorts of North American devolution

     Rather than limit it to North America, I support a global war on centralism and have emphasized the need for such for some time.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2012, 02:03:44 am »
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No, because Northwest Front.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2012, 02:14:00 pm »
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Taking the lefty parts of Canada and mixing it with the lefty parts of the USA. Seems like you'd be making North American Sweden. It would be interesting to see the clashes between Vancouver/Seattle/Portland progressives and the conservatives of the interior.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2012, 04:18:15 pm »
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Only if the People of Cascadia wants to. They have the Right to Decide. Gora Cascadia Askatuta! Wink
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2012, 04:21:22 pm »
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You know, I don't think any of us on the eastern half of Cascadia have any desire to become independent...
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2012, 03:36:23 am »
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I think we'd make a pretty awesome country. I'd support it.
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2012, 11:50:20 am »
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You know, I don't think any of us on the eastern half of Cascadia have any desire to become independent...

I certainly would prefer to be a Canadian than an american...



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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2012, 06:16:48 pm »
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^ Then why aren't you?

As for Cascadia, I'm not sure. Beyond environmental issues, I doubt I'd agree with them a whole lot.
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2012, 03:22:06 am »
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Cascadia would become one of the greatest countries in the history of the human race, so yes, I wholeheartedly support this.
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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2012, 06:15:56 am »
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^ Then why aren't you?

I wasn't born Canadian.  You do realize that countries with decent benefits aren't just going to welcome indigent miserables from the Bad Place right?  Vancouver would be packed to the gills with american refugees if it were easy to move there.
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2012, 06:21:15 am »
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^ Then why aren't you?

I wasn't born Canadian.  You do realize that countries with decent benefits aren't just going to welcome indigent miserables from the Bad Place right?  Vancouver would be packed to the gills with american refugees if it were easy to move there.

You keep implying this, but you wouldn't, in reality, have a very difficult time getting EU citizenship, for example.
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2012, 10:56:35 am »
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Simfan, why would you support this abomination of an Aryan nation as discussed earlier in the thread.
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2012, 10:57:49 am »
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^ Then why aren't you?

I wasn't born Canadian.  You do realize that countries with decent benefits aren't just going to welcome indigent miserables from the Bad Place right?  Vancouver would be packed to the gills with american refugees if it were easy to move there.

You keep implying this, but you wouldn't, in reality, have a very difficult time getting EU citizenship, for example.
Getting EU citizenship is a difficult, and it's probably a bad place especially since Thatcher and Frau Merkel.
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2012, 07:40:42 pm »
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Yes, absolutely.  See my signature.  We Oregonians and Washingtonians have much more in common with British Columbia than anywhere else in the USA, especially east of the Rocky Mountains. 

The Timbers Army flies multiple Cascadian flags at every match.  During games against Seattle and Vancouver the Doug (Cascadian) Flag flies alongside the American and Canadian flags.  Whitecaps and Sounders fans also hang pro-Cascadia banners and fly the Doug Flag, but not as much.  In the video, notice how much the Cascadian flag outnumbers the American flag in the stands.  It's not entirely serious, but it's still a statement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxxVlRg3TrQ

Of course for the movement to become serious in a political sense it would take an economic failure on par with the Soviet Union in the 1980s and an occupation of a large country like Iran to drain trillions of dollars from the government.  Also think of an extremely tyrannical federal government in that scenario.

No, because Northwest Front.

Northwest Front is practically nonexistent outside of a small corner of Eastern Washington and Northern Idaho.  There is no way those nazis would be able to take over anywhere there are a lot of people who are not fully white.  They would never take over the would-be country.
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2012, 07:43:56 pm »
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It would be interesting, but I'd rather not. The country's political views would be way too libertarian for me.
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2012, 07:48:07 pm »
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Support. Hell, I might move there if that happens.
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2012, 07:52:52 pm »
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The movement is libertarian mostly in a national sense.  Individually the cities and regions could be as statist as they wanted.  The country would work in a similar fashion to Switzerland.  Decentralisation is the main reason why I support the Cascadian Independence movement.
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« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2012, 05:34:19 pm »
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No.
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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2012, 02:45:42 pm »
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Secession is explicitly illegal, so no. No state(s) should be allowed to leave the union, period.

Even if a supermajority votes to leave?  How very liberal and Democratic of you.
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