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Question: Who won?
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Barack Obama
 
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Mitt Romney
 
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Total Voters: 171

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AmericanNation
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« on: October 16, 2012, 10:28:06 PM »

Thanks to Libya, an Obama landslide.

If the Libya exchange hadn't happened, it would have been a pretty solid Obama win. Not a blowout though.

What?Huh?  Obama is getting crushed on Libya and his ridiculous lie tonight is going to keep the issue in the spotlight.  Romney missed a kill shot because he was a little stunned by the lie and Crawly jumped in to save Barrack, but Obama will lose huge on that exchange.  

I listened to the first half in the car, so I don't have a visual feel.  Romney dominated on substance, Obama did a little better than last time, but still has no answer on the most important issues.  Dems will claim victory Romney will increase his gains in the polls.  Obama failed to defend himself or give a reason to reelect him.  
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2012, 10:44:17 PM »

Thanks to Libya, an Obama landslide.

If the Libya exchange hadn't happened, it would have been a pretty solid Obama win. Not a blowout though.

What?Huh?  Obama is getting crushed on Libya and his ridiculous lie tonight is going to keep the issue in the spotlight.  Romney missed a kill shot because he was a little stunned by the lie and Crawly jumped in to save Barrack, but Obama will lose huge on that exchange.  

I listened to the first half in the car, so I don't have a visual feel.  Romney dominated on substance, Obama did a little better than last time, but still has no answer on the most important issues.  Dems will claim victory Romney will increase his gains in the polls.  Obama failed to defend himself or give a reason to reelect him.  

Disagree emphatically.  He took Libya off the table for good and made Romney look small and partisan in the process.  Short of CIA leaks implicating Obama in something, Libya as an issue is over.

That Libya is even a political issue amazes me.  Can you imagine if Tom Daschle had blamed the Bush administration and Republicans for letting 9/11 happen on national TV on the day of the attacks?  It would have been unthinkable.

Bush didn't say the Dutch hit us on 9-11(2001) because we characterized Santa Claus in an offensive way for two weeks after the attacks.  The presidential lie about the rose garden press conference will dominate the news for the next few days.  I mean he lied to the American people for two weeks and than he still can't get it straight a month later, than he tells an insane lie in a presidential debate to top it off.  Foreign policy credibility in free fall.     
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2012, 10:50:49 PM »

Bush didn't say the Dutch hit us on 9-11(2001) because we characterized Santa Claus in an offensive way for two weeks after the attacks.  The presidential lie about the rose garden press conference will dominate the news for the next few days.  I mean he lied to the American people for two weeks and than he still can't get it straight a month later, than he tells an insane lie in a presidential debate to top it off.  Foreign policy credibility in free fall.     

The desperation is palpable. You really are living in your own world. Did you even watch the debate.

Huh I said I watched the 2nd half and listened to the first half in the car.  Who's desperate? My guy is winning and your guy is digging himself into big holes everyday.  Try making a better post next time.  
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2012, 10:58:31 PM »

Candy Crowley basically called Romney out as a liar in front of 60-65 million people on the Libya comments...it's laughable that anyone can call that a win for Romney...there is no way the Republicans can spin that
Apparently Crowley is admitting she was wrong because well she obviously was. 
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2012, 11:20:44 PM »

Candy Crowley basically called Romney out as a liar in front of 60-65 million people on the Libya comments...it's laughable that anyone can call that a win for Romney...there is no way the Republicans can spin that

Apparently Crowley is admitting she was wrong because well she obviously was. 

Romney tried to imply Obama didn't call the attack an act of terrorism. Obama did in fact do sototally false and made up; the administration didn't, however, call it an attack from a terrorist organization until it knew for sure that it was. Romney was arguing stupid semantics you're trying to but failing, he wasn't "right" about anything. everything he said was trueWhat he attacked Obama for in that moment was wrong. Full stop.nothing was wrong and you can't find anything
Obama didn't call it an act of terrorism.


Crowley is walking back hard... oops!!  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=athcyCTnTTs
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2012, 11:42:24 PM »

It won't stop Obama's slide.  If he had actually outlined policy, I think he would have won.

Didn't the slide already stop?
Not really, the polling showing Romney up 49-45 and 50-46 mostly came out the last two days. 
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2012, 07:50:55 AM »

CNN and CBS polling show Obama "won" the debate (largely because he beat expectations), but Romney won on every major issue.  I'll buy that.  As things go forward you can use substance wins much more than "hey, I beat expectations!"
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2012, 09:32:35 AM »

Obama, convincingly. Romney did about the same as last time, but it wasn't enough to win at all.

That Libya exchange is going to go up there with Ford in 1976 and Dukakis in 1988 - it's a defining moment of the election.

How can Obama win while, as you say, making a historic "election defining" gaff ? ? ?
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2012, 09:38:01 AM »

Careful, some people are into that sort of thing.   
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