The Debate Bounce

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Romney might stop gaining at 50-51
Obama might gain a point or two off his 45-46
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Romney hits 52+ territory.

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He's going to get a negative bounce from winning a debate? You people are shameless, aren't you?

You dems really don't know anything.  The president came in behind, lost on the substance of every important issue, failed to outline a vision or a reason to reelect him, failed to rebut the challengers case that he is a failed president with no plan(specifically on the economy, the #1 issue), committed a major gaff with the Libya thing (Again).  He may have won on points(by being overly aggressive and annoying people), but Romney will win votes and Obama will lose votes, which is kinda the point.   

[AmericanNation]

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He's going to get a negative bounce from winning a debate? You people are shameless, aren't you?

You dems really don't know anything.  The president came in behind, lost on the substance of every important issue, failed to outline a vision or a reason to reelect him, failed to rebut the challengers case that he is a failed president with no plan(specifically on the economy, the #1 issue), committed a major gaff with the Libya thing (Again).  He may have won on points(by being overly aggressive and annoying people), but Romney will win votes and Obama will lose votes, which is kinda the point.   

Exactly what would he have to say that would count as a "vision for a second term" to you?  

You can parse the word "vision" a couple different ways.  Clearly Obama has no PLAN and no reason for a second term, but even his objectives of "more teachers" and "moving forward"  are so weak that I can't say that meets the threshold of "vision".  Bush campaigned for reelection on transforming social security into a permanently solvent system and fostering conditions for pro-american democracy to spread throughout the middle east.  Like those positions or not, they are no doubt 'visionary'.  Obama wants to raise taxes and implement his unpopular healthcare reform. Two things already poised to happen if nothing is done.  Maybe he should "pass a budget" a completely new concept I heard about once.  He just doesn't approach the threshold. 

Krauthammer outlines this in reaction to the acceptance speech. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmZh6mV6M08         

[AmericanNation]

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Romney might stop gaining at 50-51
Obama might gain a point or two off his 45-46
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Romney hits 52+ territory.

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Gallup: -1
Ras: -1
IBD: -1

It is still early.

yes but state polls and ppp confirm that...

Those are still early polls and most of them are pre debate.  Calm down everyone.

It seems my "shameless" prediction is looking pretty good.   

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Colorado: Obama 50%, Romney 47% (Public Policy Polling)

Iowa: Obama 51%, Romney 43% (NBC News/Marist)

Wisconsin: Obama 51%, Romney 43% (NBC News/Marist)

The Colorado poll is more favorable to President Obama if Third-Party candidates are included.

It looks much as things were before the first debate, which was very much a do-or-die situation for any chance for Romney.

Romney is even in Wisconsin, so that poll is only off a minimum of 7 points.