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« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2012, 10:28:13 AM »
« edited: October 17, 2012, 10:33:04 AM by angus »

You left out Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, Ronald Regan, etc. etc.

Clint Eastwood was cool.  Now he's making political speeches.  The whole point of cool is to tune in, turn on, and drop out.  Now, there are a few people capable of being politically active and remaining cool.  They are the supercool.  It's easier to pull that off if you're on the far right or the far left, by the way, which is why the supercool will mainly support fringe candidates (socialists, libertarians, scorchers, constitutionalists, etc.), but there are some who are cool enough to support a major party candidate openly and still be cool.  They are the coolest of the supercool.  I'm not sure Clint Eastwood is among them.  Elvis was, for sure.  He was a Nixon man, and still cool.  Andy Warhol was cool enough as well.  He could get away with supporting Romney or Obama and still be cool.  Most people can't pull that off, because the cool factor derives from being above this sort of thing.  The Buddha, for example, probably the coolest dude ever, would avoid endorsing any candidate.  Certainly he'd avoid supporting the likes of modern American politicians.


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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2012, 10:31:47 AM »

In Canada, you are assumed to love Barack Obama, and if you don't, you're nuts.
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« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2012, 10:33:00 AM »

This is a really stupid question... of course not? Wink
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« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2012, 10:37:38 AM »


yeah.. you know how there are often villains in Nazi movies that you can't help but find somewhat appealing - like the guy in the Jews-killing-Nazis movie that came out a year or two ago.  But to support this kind of milquetoast version, its just Babbitism.

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« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2012, 11:11:46 AM »

It's hard to like someone who's super serious about supporting BO because typically they have no logical basis to do so.

Unless they're not rich.
 
I'm not sure what your point is.  "Only rich people are Republicans?"  
Dems are the party of the super rich and powerful and they try to "buy" the cheapest/easiest votes they can in order to keep/use power to preserve/improve their power structure.  
That being the case, I can't make out your point.    

The point is obvious - it is rational for the non-rich to vote Democratic (or socialist if only they had that option).  It is only logical for the rich to vote Republican.
Only if you define the middle class as "the rich".  The entrenched super rich class owns the democrats.   They try to build a winning coalition as cheap and 'radical' as they can because you can mold 'untethered people' more easily to do/support what you want.  It's like giving candy to children.  Here's a free phone, here's free birth control, here's a racial quota, let's "go after" the 'rich' and make things 'fair', here's a government contract, here's a grant, here's a regulation to make you feel better...  It's literally throwing candy around treating everyone like children, but don't pay attention to what I'm doing over here, and never mind how we messed that up, THEY WANT TO TAKE THE CANDY AWAY!!!         
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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2012, 11:35:21 AM »

No. Clearly all the hot people support Romney.
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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2012, 11:38:27 AM »

In Canada, you are assumed to love Barack Obama, and if you don't, you're nuts.

That's the entire rest of the world, not just Canada.  And it wouldn't necessarily be Barack Obama, but rather any Democratic presidential nominee.

The US is certainly a strange and unique place.
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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2012, 12:00:39 PM »

In Canada, you are assumed to love Barack Obama, and if you don't, you're nuts.

That's the entire rest of the world, not just Canada.  And it wouldn't necessarily be Barack Obama, but rather any Democratic presidential nominee.

The US is certainly a strange and unique place.

exceptional. 
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« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2012, 12:08:05 PM »

Democrats have done such a good job of controlling the terms of debate over the past 80 years .
Lolwut? The Republicans own the discourse by repeating ad naseum cute little bumper sticker phrases. Support our troops. Don't cut and run. Sanctity of marriage. Freedom isn't free. Etc. One thing about the GOP. They understand marketing.
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« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2012, 12:20:09 PM »

In Canada, you are assumed to love Barack Obama, and if you don't, you're nuts.

That's the entire rest of the world, not just Canada.  And it wouldn't necessarily be Barack Obama, but rather any Democratic presidential nominee.

The US is certainly a strange and unique place.

exceptional. 

Worse.

Only if you define the middle class as "the rich".  The entrenched super rich class owns the democrats.   They try to build a winning coalition as cheap and 'radical' as they can because you can mold 'untethered people' more easily to do/support what you want.  It's like giving candy to children.  Here's a free phone, here's free birth control, here's a racial quota, let's "go after" the 'rich' and make things 'fair', here's a government contract, here's a grant, here's a regulation to make you feel better...  It's literally throwing candy around treating everyone like children, but don't pay attention to what I'm doing over here, and never mind how we messed that up, THEY WANT TO TAKE THE CANDY AWAY!!!         

No, the rich prefer the Republicans, Amna.  The 'middle class' is just a few petite bourgeois, doctors, lawyers, and that sort of thing.  The vast, vast majority of Americans are poor or 'working class' persons.
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« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2012, 12:21:07 PM »

In Canada, you are assumed to love Barack Obama, and if you don't, you're nuts.

That's the entire rest of the world, not just Canada.  And it wouldn't necessarily be Barack Obama, but rather any Democratic presidential nominee.

The US is certainly a strange and unique place.
No, there a plenty of dictatorships and the like that which are not counted as the rest of the world.
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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2012, 12:28:07 PM »


In the sense that the US is an exception to the civilized world, absolutely.
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« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2012, 12:30:17 PM »

it's possible, at least in the abstract.  
the supercool would support people like Stein or Johnson or Rocky, of course.  Fonzie, for example, is probably a Libertarian.  I can't see him supporting a major party candidate.  Che Guevara would lay waste to the major party candidates in scathing, inflammatory speeches.  Mark Twain would probably make fun of both of them continuously in biting, satirical articles.  

But there are a handful of cool people who support Romney (Captain Kirk, maybe), and a few who support Obama, for that matter (Charlotte Brontė, and maybe John Lennon).  Mostly cool people wouldn't support Romney/Obama, but I wouldn't preclude the mere possibility.  


John Lennon was a Reagan supporter by the time he died.
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« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2012, 12:31:20 PM »

I can't really answer this question well, because where I live, and the people I'm with at college, virtually everyone supports Romney. I guess Romney would be the "cool" option in that "everyone is doing it".
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« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2012, 12:46:05 PM »

I can't really answer this question well, because where I live, and the people I'm with at college, virtually everyone supports Romney. I guess Romney would be the "cool" option in that "everyone is doing it".

haha, when I saw your chinese I thought you were Konkee.  But where are you?  You can't be at Bloomington if everyone's right-wing, correct?  I thought Bloomington was an island of reason in a sea of bigotry like Austin or Columbia Mo.
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« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2012, 02:16:33 PM »

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Quite the opposite, Opebo, at least speaking for Austin.
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« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2012, 02:23:45 PM »

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Quite the opposite, Opebo, at least speaking for Austin.

No buddy, just checked: Travis County went about 63% for reason, while Texas as a whole was about 55% sea-of-bigotry.
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« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2012, 02:27:13 PM »
« Edited: October 17, 2012, 02:30:30 PM by Ben Kenobi »

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Travis county has more white people than TX as a whole. Since by Opebo's maxim "Only white people can be racist", ergo, Travis County is more racist than TX as a whole.
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« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2012, 02:30:02 PM »

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Travis county has more white people than anybody else. TX as a whole does not. Since by Opebo's maxim "Only white people can be racist", ergo, Travis County is more racist than TX as a whole.

Dude, didn't you see Slacker?
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« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2012, 02:31:33 PM »

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Are you arguing that a TX city that is majority white is somehow not racist? I though that was impossible.
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« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2012, 02:33:23 PM »

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Are you arguing that a TX city that is majority white is somehow not racist? I though that was impossible.

Go away simpleton, I was talking to Konkee.
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« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2012, 02:50:38 PM »

John Lennon was a Reagan supporter by the time he died.

No, he wasn't. He just didn't like Carter.
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« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2012, 02:56:34 PM »

it's possible, at least in the abstract.  
the supercool would support people like Stein or Johnson or Rocky, of course.  Fonzie, for example, is probably a Libertarian.  I can't see him supporting a major party candidate.  Che Guevara would lay waste to the major party candidates in scathing, inflammatory speeches.  Mark Twain would probably make fun of both of them continuously in biting, satirical articles.  

But there are a handful of cool people who support Romney (Captain Kirk, maybe), and a few who support Obama, for that matter (Charlotte Brontė, and maybe John Lennon).  Mostly cool people wouldn't support Romney/Obama, but I wouldn't preclude the mere possibility.  


John Lennon was a Reagan supporter by the time he died.

Indeed, and I think he'd still support a major party candidate.  Which one?  Flip a coin.  

I was thinking about Spock.  I think he would be less likely to support Romney than the Captain.  Not Obama, though.  He would probably go with a Libertarian.  Sulu probably likes Obama, though.  
(Sulu ≠ cool.)
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« Reply #48 on: October 17, 2012, 03:12:25 PM »

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Isn't the preferred nomenclature, "intellectually impaired"?
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« Reply #49 on: October 17, 2012, 03:22:51 PM »

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Travis county has more white people than TX as a whole. Since by Opebo's maxim "Only white people can be racist", ergo, Travis County is more racist than TX as a whole.

opebo just got owned by his own logic.
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