Romney/Ryan Campaign Going Nowhere with Millennials

[Frodo]

And Romney's selection of Paul Ryan as VP looks like it might have even hurt his chances even more:

Scant Gains for Romney in a Poll of Young Voters

By SUSAN SAULNY
Published: October 17, 2012

For all the Republican efforts to cast President Obama as a failed leader who created a lost generation of young people with diminished prospects for financial success, Mr. Obama has maintained a strong advantage over Mitt Romney among the crucial constituency of young voters, slightly increasing his lead in polls since the spring.

Despite the Romney campaign’s message that the “Obama economy” — specifically, the recession and the slow recovery — has been detrimental to young job seekers, Mr. Romney has made very limited gains since the spring among likely voters ages 18 to 29.

Those findings, from a national poll of young voters conducted for the Harvard Institute of Politics, highlight a lost opportunity for Mr. Romney, experts said. Earlier polls by the institute found a high level of undecided voters who, when compared with voters in 2008, were significantly more likely to identify as conservative and cite a lack of faith in government.

[Likely Voter]

The issue with young voters and hispanics isn't who they prefer anymore. It is all about whether they show up in the same numbers as they did in 2008. If they do, he easily wins. If they don't, then Obama better hold those white suburban women or its over.

[5280]

I guess my generation expects Obama to forgive on their student loans and have the tax payer bail them out. What an embarrasment. Don't care for the tuition costs rising to unprecedented levels.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I guess my generation expects Obama to forgive on their student loans and have the tax payer bail them out. What an embarrasment. Don't care for the tuition costs rising to unprecedented levels.

Are we going to get this EVERY SINGLE TIME Obama is leading in a poll?

We get it, you think anyone voting for Obama is ignorant or a greedy moocher... WE GET IT!

[Ty440]

I guess my generation expects Obama to forgive on their student loans and have the tax payer bail them out. What an embarrasment. Don't care for the tuition costs rising to unprecedented levels.

Are we going to get this EVERY SINGLE TIME Obama is leading in a poll?

We get it, you think anyone voting for Obama is ignorant or a greedy moocher... WE GET IT!

But he says zilch about trillions of dollars wasted in Iraq.

[pbrower2a]

I guess my generation expects Obama to forgive on their student loans and have the tax payer bail them out. What an embarrasment. Don't care for the tuition costs rising to unprecedented levels.

There will be some catch.

One can get a huge chunk of one's student loans paid off through military service.

Another might be to teach in tough urban schools or in some not-so-prime rural areas, enter a career in law enforcement, or some medical specialties.

...Only a fool denies the need to reform post-secondary education so that those who graduate have well-rounded intellectual skills and arguably some of the old virtues that one used to associate with a solid college education. Such may imply that many schools abandon numerous college majors and revert to the old standards of the liberal arts school.

The Great Books approach could be much less costly than the watered-down grad school that has become the norm of undergraduate schooling. All that it would take is a reader with books downloaded as needed. With few exceptions (like 1984)  almost all of the Great Books are public domain and freely accessible.

[memphis]

Not that complicated. Young people are far less white than older people. The deluge is coming.

[5280]

I guess my generation expects Obama to forgive on their student loans and have the tax payer bail them out. What an embarrasment. Don't care for the tuition costs rising to unprecedented levels.

There will be some catch.

One can get a huge chunk of one's student loans paid off through military service.

Another might be to teach in tough urban schools or in some not-so-prime rural areas, enter a career in law enforcement, or some medical specialties.

...Only a fool denies the need to reform post-secondary education so that those who graduate have well-rounded intellectual skills and arguably some of the old virtues that one used to associate with a solid college education. Such may imply that many schools abandon numerous college majors and revert to the old standards of the liberal arts school.

The Great Books approach could be much less costly than the watered-down grad school that has become the norm of undergraduate schooling. All that it would take is a reader with books downloaded as needed. With few exceptions (like 1984)  almost all of the Great Books are public domain and freely accessible.

These two proposals I actually agree with, it's depends on the length of the service and what branch they enlist. Typically, the common length is 4 years, unless the job itself requires years of training or school.

[wan]

And Romney's selection of Paul Ryan as VP looks like it might have even hurt his chances even more:

Scant Gains for Romney in a Poll of Young Voters

By SUSAN SAULNY
Published: October 17, 2012

For all the Republican efforts to cast President Obama as a failed leader who created a lost generation of young people with diminished prospects for financial success, Mr. Obama has maintained a strong advantage over Mitt Romney among the crucial constituency of young voters, slightly increasing his lead in polls since the spring.

Despite the Romney campaign’s message that the “Obama economy” — specifically, the recession and the slow recovery — has been detrimental to young job seekers, Mr. Romney has made very limited gains since the spring among likely voters ages 18 to 29.

Those findings, from a national poll of young voters conducted for the Harvard Institute of Politics, highlight a lost opportunity for Mr. Romney, experts said. Earlier polls by the institute found a high level of undecided voters who, when compared with voters in 2008, were significantly more likely to identify as conservative and cite a lack of faith in government.

Of course he didn't choose RUBIO who may well helped  in more. I am still shock Romney is some what in the lead in Florida because he choose Paul Ryan who's budget and plans to turn medicare into a voucher is very unpopular there. Thats why i'm voting for Obama

[krazen1211]

-19 is definitely going places compared to -34.

And plus, they aren't voting as much. How lovely.

[King]

This will all change, of course, once the olds vote Romney/Ryan in, the business cycle finishes its recovery as it always does, and--even thought they did nothing--the perception will be that the Republicans saved the economy and lowered healthcare costs along the way.  Then, all young Americans will remember how what a great man Mitt Romney was.

That's not some sort of pessimism either.  I'm 100% convinced this is Mitt Romney's plan to be a great President: riding the tide of inaction.  There's no way he would be running into this thing with such nonsensical policy ideas if he actually thought he needed to really do something fundamentally different from what is already going to happen.

[pa2011]

Not that complicated. Young people are far less white than older people. The deluge is coming.

This!!! Talk of the "youth vote" really needs to be couched in how dramatically more diverse the 30 and under, and especially the 20 and under population is compared to 10 or 20 years ago. And it's not just the surge in the hispanic population.. If many, many major metropolitian areas, there is incredible growth in the mixed race population.

[tallguy23]

We can chalk this up to a number of things....

1. Millennials are way more socially/culturally liberal. Even a good number of young conservatives support gay marriage. Religion isn't really a huge part of their lives and if it is they prefer it to be private and separate from politics.

2. The GOP does a piss poor job of reaching out to this group. Obama did an amazing job in 2008 and that is still carrying over.

3. Diversity. 40% of Millenials are non-white and a good portion of them are the children of immigrants. Anti-immigrant politics isn't going to play well with them. This is a generation who, for the most part, grew up with friends of many different colors and backgrounds.

4. Obama is playing well with this group because of two issues:
- Allowing them to stay on their parent's insurance until 26
-Student loans

[traininthedistance]

We can chalk this up to a number of things....

1. Millennials are way more socially/culturally liberal. Even a good number of young conservatives support gay marriage. Religion isn't really a huge part of their lives and if it is they prefer it to be private and separate from politics.

2. The GOP does a piss poor job of reaching out to this group. Obama did an amazing job in 2008 and that is still carrying over.

3. Diversity. 40% of Millenials are non-white and a good portion of them are the children of immigrants. Anti-immigrant politics isn't going to play well with them. This is a generation who, for the most part, grew up with friends of many different colors and backgrounds.

4. Obama is playing well with this group because of two issues:
- Allowing them to stay on their parent's insurance until 26
-Student loans

5: The environment.  What do olds care if they deplete all our fossil fuels and give us the coastal flooding, severe storms, desertification, famine, etc. that come with climate change?  They'll be dead by then, screw the future.  But we're going to be alive when it all hits the fan, of course we have to care.

Admittedly green issues are far less prominent than they were four years ago.  But they're still important to many of us (and should be important to many, many more).